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re: As purely a musician, where do you rank Prince all time?
Posted on 10/13/26 at 6:52 pm to tigahlovah
Posted on 10/13/26 at 6:52 pm to tigahlovah
quote:I guess. It's really bad.
If "Kiss" was released for the first time today, it would SOAR to #1, just like it did 40 years ago. BTW, I'm not talking about a posthumous release, I meant if he was 28yo today like he was in 1986 and released it.
quote:This would almost have to be true by definition. I mean, I like When Doves Cry and all, but it's not like that's that great either. I would never hear that and wonder what genius was behind it.
If you haven't heard his non hits, a lot of them are better than what you always hear on the radio.
What's the best example or two you have of a mid-80s deep cut that is actually good?
It's a shame that Purple Rain never actually topped the charts here. THAT is actually great.
And it's been litigated in multiple threads here - and fairly recently - but his Beatles solo that everyone always slobbers over is, IMO, fairly representative of what I find off-putting about him: technically proficient, overly showy, not really adding anything of merit.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 7:18 pm to tigahlovah
Bono, Trent Reznor, Michael Jackson, Harry Connick Jr, Rick James, Madonna and David Bowie are among several performers that never really liked him.
Some of it was personal but a few referred to him as overrated.
Some of it was personal but a few referred to him as overrated.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 7:19 pm to The Silverback
One of the very best…
Posted on 10/13/26 at 8:10 pm to Big Scrub TX
Included in that "everyone always slobbers over solo" would be multiple all time great musicians. Think Clapton and others. Tom Petty raved about it and played it on his XM radio show multiple times daily until his own death.
17 days, she's always in my hair, automatic, irresistible bitch, erotic city, lady cab driver, how come don't call me, pink cashmere, and dozens of others.
It's IMPOSSIBLE for me to name a favorite Prince song. Two of my all time favorites are The Ballad of Dorothy Parker and Do U Lie?
17 days, she's always in my hair, automatic, irresistible bitch, erotic city, lady cab driver, how come don't call me, pink cashmere, and dozens of others.
It's IMPOSSIBLE for me to name a favorite Prince song. Two of my all time favorites are The Ballad of Dorothy Parker and Do U Lie?
Posted on 10/13/26 at 8:15 pm to hogcard1964
Rick James and Mike was clearly personal and fueled by jealousy.
Jackson was INFINITELY more popular than Prince (hell more than anyone but Elvis), but he knew he wasn't anywhere near the musician Prince was.
Jackson was INFINITELY more popular than Prince (hell more than anyone but Elvis), but he knew he wasn't anywhere near the musician Prince was.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 8:27 pm to hogcard1964
Also, you might want to rethink that Bowie viewpoint.
They almost collaborated on Heathen, and Bowie hung out and jammed with Prince at Paisley Park on a few occasions. Very possibly some of your favorites did as well and would completely disagree with your analysis of how "shitty " his music was.
Prince invited and hosted hundreds of musicians from all genres at Paisley over the 30 years he owned it, and most of those session weren't publicized.
They almost collaborated on Heathen, and Bowie hung out and jammed with Prince at Paisley Park on a few occasions. Very possibly some of your favorites did as well and would completely disagree with your analysis of how "shitty " his music was.
Prince invited and hosted hundreds of musicians from all genres at Paisley over the 30 years he owned it, and most of those session weren't publicized.
This post was edited on 10/13/26 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 10/13/26 at 8:34 pm to The Silverback
I don’t rank him. Many that are a lot better
Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:54 am to Bowstring1
Yea, just never impressed.
"Touch if you will my stomach. Feel how it trembles inside."
"Touch if you will my stomach. Feel how it trembles inside."
Posted on 10/14/26 at 10:46 am to tigahlovah
quote:I don't have anything against who he was as a person and it's obviously he was extremely famous and respected by man musicians. I'm sure it would have been awesome to have been a fly on the wall at any of those sessions.
Prince invited and hosted hundreds of musicians from all genres at Paisley over the 30 years he owned it, and most of those session weren't publicized.
However, nothing changes how overall uninspiring the catalogue is. It's weird how his best singles didn't make #1. No Little Red Corvette, 1999 or Raspberry Beret. Instead, we get Kiss and Cream. ugh
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:44 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Little Red Corvette
I thought that was actually a pretty good tune. I thought there were a couple of good tunes scattered over Dirty Mind, Controversy and 1999.
I didn't like anything after that to be totally honest.
I actually owned several of those albums back in the day.
Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:42 pm to The Silverback
Except for When Doves Cry I couldn't stand his music, but the thread is asking best musician. Not best guitarist, or best keyboard player etc. It doesn't get any more musician than writing and recording an entire album completely by yourself. There aren't a whole lot of people that are even capable of doing that, so I'd say he's up there for sure
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