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Without Remorse - Amazon Prime 4/30

Posted on 4/25/21 at 3:45 pm
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 3:45 pm
Probably my favorite Clancy novel

Clark is a badass

But looks like they went woke and made him black?
This post was edited on 4/25/21 at 3:46 pm
Posted by Jay Are
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 3:51 pm to
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But looks like they went woke and made him black?


Yes, they went woke and made him black.

It obviously had nothing to do with Michael B. Jordan, a major movie star, producing the movie because he wanted to play this specific role. It's all "they" and it's all "woke."
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 3:53 pm to
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It obviously had nothing to do with Michael B. Jordan, a major movie star, producing the movie because he wanted to play this specific role. It's all "they" and it's all "woke."


Makes sense that he liked the story and wanted to do it.

But being an Irish Catholic is central to John Clark's character.
Posted by CC
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 5:10 pm to
All Tom Clancy characters are Irish Catholics names John.
Posted by ScottFowler
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 5:15 pm to
Christ in heaven no. Been waiting for an adaptation of this book for decades, and Hollywood does what it does.
Butchers it. Just watching the trailer tells me it is not going to be the book I love. No matter the skin color of the actor portraying Clark. This guy doesn't have the presence to play Clark.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 5:39 pm to
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All Tom Clancy characters are Irish Catholics names John


Robby Jackson is black.

But he wasn't in the Ryanverse back then - Jack Ryan was in college and hadn't met any of the other characters yet.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 5:42 pm to
I'm seeing some rumblings on the internet that this version of the character is in the same universe as John Krasinski's Jack Ryan.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 6:33 pm to
Does anyone have the balls to actually make Rainbow Six?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 6:46 pm to
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But being an Irish Catholic is central to John Clark's character.


This is why modern movies are so bad.

They have no fidelity to their characters.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 7:01 pm to
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I'm seeing some rumblings on the internet that this version of the character is in the same universe as John Krasinski's Jack Ryan.


Which made Jim Greer a fricking Muslim
Posted by ScottFowler
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 8:54 pm to
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Which made Jim Greer a fricking Muslim


So this crap is the same as Frank Herbert's son ruining Dune?
Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 11:06 pm to
I don’t give a crap that he’s black. But why take a beloved novel and make a show that seems to have nothing in common with the novel except the title. I just don’t get it. That novel would translate well on film but it looks like we will never get it.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 7:00 am to
Aloha Snack Bar Jim Greer marks a low point for Clancy adaptations.

The previous milestone of shame was making the terrorists in Sum of All Fears white supremacists.
Posted by Wally Sparks
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 7:13 am to
Saw the TV spot for it the other night and wanted to cry.
Posted by OldManRiver
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 8:31 am to
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It obviously had nothing to do with Michael B. Jordan, a major movie star, producing the movie because he wanted to play this specific role

When you change 90% of a story you are supposedly making a film adaption of, then just be honest and say you wanted the name recognition to draw more people into your movie, yet you have no desire to actually adapt the book you are using
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 8:46 am to
From the clips/write ups this looks nothing like Without Remorse and my interest level is close to zero

It may be worth watching as an action series I guess, but I'm guessing it'll have little to no appeal to folks who want to see Clancy books come to life in any meaningful way
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:31 am to
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why take a beloved novel and make a show that seems to have nothing in common with the novel


This x1000
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:35 am to
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Probably my favorite Clancy novel

Clark is a badass

But looks like they went woke and made him black?



Until I read a little bit deeper into it and found out MBJ likes Tom Clancy I was worried about the woke. I'm more worried about the violence aspect. As it's written, it is one of the more brutal books out there. Does MBJ have the stomach to do the hyperbaric chamber scene.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:37 am to
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Does anyone have the balls to actually make Rainbow Six?



The scene with the young girl at the amusement park and Johnson's retaliation would be an all timer if done correctly.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:37 am to
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But why take a beloved novel and make a show that seems to have nothing in common with the novel except the title. I just don’t get it. That novel would translate well on film but it looks like we will never get it.



just to capitalize off the name

Hollywood has a long history of doing this and its annoying as frick every single time



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