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re: Will we ever hit a point where movie theaters

Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by buddhavista
Member since Jul 2012
3543 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:42 pm to
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If anything, that part of the movie experience will only get worse over time. We're becoming a less polite society and there's little that can be done to combat that trend.

I am not sure that is the issue. I think the issue is the rise of mobile phones, which makes it easy to get distracted during movies and much of the problem comes from mobile phones. talking in movies and babies have been an issue since I was a kid.
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However I believe movies, as a date night, will continue to provide a big enough draw that theaters will have a place in the market for years to come.


me too.

But I would love a model for home viewing of new releases. I think piracy is probably the bigger hurdle at the moment, how can you deliver it without someone stealing the stream/recording it and then posting it.

They could easily impelement a webcam model on a roku to count number of people watching and charge accordingly.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61492 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:43 pm to
I think the people that will skip the Movie Theater because the Home Theater is good enough have already checked out. The people going to movies now are doing so to get out of the house.
Posted by Fat Andy
Member since Oct 2009
1551 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:43 pm to
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These people complaining probably go to movies on weekend nights at 8 on one of the first weekends of a movie opening. There are numerous ways around that. Weeknights pretty much kill all of the annoying shite. Waiting a while to see a movie does as well. Going to afternoon showings works. These are all obvious but I feel like people still don't do it.


This is the main problem people have but they must not be smart enough to realize it.

I see at least one movie a week most weeks two, but I go on a weekday afternoon/evening. I can usually count on one hand the amount of people in the theater. Always an enjoyable experience.
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
Member since Apr 2008
8064 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:45 pm to
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These people complaining probably go to movies on weekend nights at 8 on one of the first weekends of a movie opening. There are numerous ways around that. Weeknights pretty much kill all of the annoying shite. Waiting a while to see a movie does as well. Going to afternoon showings works. These are all obvious but I feel like people still don't do it.


This. When I'm in BR. I hit the Grand Cinema up on Monday or Tuesday for a 4pm showing. Either I am by myself or with an older couple. In Vegas it is easy to catch a movie by yourself, since they have so many theaters and times.

I never go to a new movie just out on the weekend.

Edit: Backfired once at Grand Cinema, went and saw Ted on Tuesday afternoon and couple brought their infant kid.
This post was edited on 1/28/13 at 12:56 pm
Posted by nikki6
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
1967 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:46 pm to
I haven't been to a movie after 7pm on a weekend in years b/c of the problems you encounter. But the problems, rude people on phones, talking, texting, getting up constantly, etc. are creeping into what was once considered the safe zone. I saw the re-release of Lion King in 3D at 9pm on a Wed. night. The jackass teenager next to me was on his phone the whole time. I was trying to figure out why what appeared to be an 18ish male would be in the movie alone. I repeatedly asked him to put his phone away and he would sigh heavy and do it for a while, but then get back on it.

At a weeknight showing of Dark Shadows in a nearly empty theater an older couple with their grandchildren came and sat right in front of us and then proceeded to be rude the entire time(kids talking, pulling Subway sandwiches out of grandma's purse and rustling the paper, dropping the coke bottles on the floor that grandma also took out of her purse, etc.

At a Sunday matinee(1st showing of the day at 10am) of Les Miserables with mostly older watchers(like 50 and up older), phones ringing, constant getting up to leave the theater and come back etc. Raised whispers to explain what was going on to their companion, loud snoring etc. etc.

I HATE going to the movies nowadays. I am looking forward to the Alamo Drafthouse which is being built not far from my house. They have a strict policy on talking, phones, etc. and they will kick people out. I will patronize them often if they can keep the distractions away.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61492 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:46 pm to
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But I would love a model for home viewing of new releases. I think piracy is probably the bigger hurdle at the moment, how can you deliver it without someone stealing the stream/recording it and then posting it.


I think they may be more worried about cannibalization of movie sales. It's not like they can do a head count before showing the movie at someone's home so they probably have to target an average audience size. The experimentation they've done has been around the $60 price point IIRC. That price may be fine for a family or a group of friends, but why would a couple or a single person pay that much of a premium for home viewing?
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25239 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:50 pm to
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To the OP. The issue isn't theaters, it is the city you live in. I have never had these problems where I live.

When did I state that these were my issues? I actually tend to have good experiences at theaters, but I'd still prefer to avoid them most of the time.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36450 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:51 pm to
Lucky for you, I mentioned 2 other options!!! And I'm sure there are even more alternatives!!
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40798 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:55 pm to
Here is how I look at it. There are few movies I want to see in the theater. If I do go, I have a buddy I go with, and that's really the only reason I go is to hang out. And in the several years we've been doing this, we have maybe been to maybe 2 opening night showings. The rest are afternoons when our kids are out doing stuff with the moms. Or late at night when everyone is going to bed. It's easy to avoid the teens and dumb asses if you pick and choose when and where you go. Finally, any movie I want to see is available on a torrent site pretty much immidiately so, if there is something I want to see but not in the theater, i'll download it.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11480 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:57 pm to
You are correct. It has gotten bad in and around theaters (and malls for that matter which are usually near a theater). It is at its worst on opening night and weekend nights. I have just accepted that I will never go to the movies on a weekend night.
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:58 pm to
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Will we ever hit a point where movie theaters get bypassed by some form of electronic means to view a new film at home?



We're already there. I can count on one hand the amount of movies I went to in the theater the last five years. Last movie I saw at the theater was well over a year ago.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11480 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 12:59 pm to
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This is the main problem people have but they must not be smart enough to realize it.

I see at least one movie a week most weeks two, but I go on a weekday afternoon/evening.


Not everyone has that luxury.
Posted by nikki6
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
1967 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:10 pm to
This strategy doesn't always work anymore b/c it's not just the teenagers that are assholes in movie theaters anymore. Society in general is rude as frick, which makes any event where the public is welcome, much more likely to suck.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:49 pm to
I sort of do this. I haven't been to the movies in a while. I'd much rather chill at home and watch it considering the investment I've put into sound and picture.

Not to mention it ends up costing over 20$ a person to go and I'd much rather just get the blu ray and be able to watch it again whenever I want
Posted by LSU lilly
Member since Aug 2010
8959 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:50 pm to
I hope so. I'm not a fan of movie theaters. Ever since someone tried to steal my jacket in one.
Posted by buddhavista
Member since Jul 2012
3543 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:54 pm to
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I think they may be more worried about cannibalization of movie sales. It's not like they can do a head count before showing the movie at someone's home so they probably have to target an average audience size. The experimentation they've done has been around the $60 price point IIRC. That price may be fine for a family or a group of friends, but why would a couple or a single person pay that much of a premium for home viewing?


Well they can do a head count, there are webcams and software that can count how many people are in a room. So they could figure that out.

And they are not thinking outside the box for business models either. yes, you will get lower attendence in the theater but if priced appropriately, you get a larger audience plus fewer people to share the pie with. you could also do subscriptions, i.e. one new movie a month for $X but you have to buy a year.

I really think the bigger worry is piracy. once you stream it, its going to get ripped and posted online.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26579 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:19 pm to
Everyone here talking about the "riff raff" is cracking me up. As another poster said, it's where you go or live, not society as a whole. I have been to the movies at Green Hills in Nashville and in Georgetown, DC dozens of times, and never once was anybody obnoxious. If you go to Citiplace in BR at 8 pm, then yeah you might have a problem.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:32 pm to
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get bypassed by some form of electronic means to view a new film at home?

Seems like a lot of people already dislike theaters due to the crowd, noise, costs, etc and with televisions in most homes only getting larger and nicer, will we hit a point where the theater is deemed unnecessary? I'm thinking of it in the same scenario of redbox/netflix/etc killing off rental stores.




This was my idea for my business class. Was told it would be too hard for the movie studios to keep track of their sales or some BS.

People liked it, but didn't think it would work.
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19677 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:42 pm to
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niche theaters are going to take over imo

theaters that serve meals, alcohol, etc

there are some theaters that have STRICT no talking/texting policies and go as far as having employees sit in movies and remove people who say one word


These are extremely popular in ATL. You pay a little more per ticket but it is worth it in the end.

Having reserved seats, seats that can recline to how you want them, getting meals served with a movie... etc.

It is hard to beat.

ETA the reserved seating is extremely hard to beat, I imagine that most theatres will be this way within 10 years or so.
This post was edited on 1/28/13 at 2:44 pm
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
Member since Apr 2008
8064 posts
Posted on 1/28/13 at 3:01 pm to
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theaters that serve meals, alcohol, etc


For people that have been to these (I Have not), ever had any trouble with someone being hammered?
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