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re: Wild Wild Country on Netflix
Posted on 3/19/18 at 10:00 pm to McCringleberryy
Posted on 3/19/18 at 10:00 pm to McCringleberryy
What I don’t understand is how did this get lost In history? I have spoken to a few of my family and friends who are in their sixties and they don’t remember this major event at all.
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 10:01 pm to Sao
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I'll skip simply to why they purchased even the FIRST weapon... do you remember when that was, what happened and who was the catalyst?
I think some Muslim militant bombed one of their hotels in Portland.
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Found an article.
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A motive was not presented to jurors, but Deputy Dist. Atty. Charles French said in a pretrial hearing that Paster belonged to a militant, fundamentalist Muslim organization. Olsen did not formally exclude evidence of Paster's religious beliefs from the trial but warned French and defense attorney Robert Goffredi that testimony about religious beliefs could lead to a mistrial.
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 3/20/18 at 8:02 am to McCringleberryy
Finished it up yesterday. What a crazy story! I would have been late teens early 20s when all this went down so I have no idea how I have no recollection of these events.
Some great characters in this series, but my favorite had to be the fat man in the overalls who went through the cult's trash in the landfill, and the old senator who knew from the beginning that the cult tried to poison the town.
Some great characters in this series, but my favorite had to be the fat man in the overalls who went through the cult's trash in the landfill, and the old senator who knew from the beginning that the cult tried to poison the town.
Posted on 3/20/18 at 12:34 pm to muttenstein
Am I the only one who thought this felt very Errol Morris-y?
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:29 am to touchdownjeebus
Finished this up today. Incredible series. Episode 3 was insane.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:10 am to McCringleberryy
It's excellent. Very well put together. Soundtrack is on point. Those Louisiana boys done good.
Never even knew about this slice of history
Never even knew about this slice of history
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:56 am to McCringleberryy
Watched the first episode last night - although I kind of know the basics of the story, extremely well done to this point.
I love how the filmmakers humanize terrorists.
I love how the filmmakers humanize terrorists.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 11:47 am to McCringleberryy
I'm only through episode 1. It was funny because I swear to God right as I was thinking that it was so crazy that it felt made up or at least like Netflix blew it out of proportion, they had a clip of some guy saying "One day someone will write a book about this. And people will think that that book is fiction."
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:35 pm to McCringleberryy
That town sure got lucky one of it's landowners was probably the most important person in the state at the time.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:57 pm to Sao
*SPOILERS*
Because their hotel was bombed by an anti-Indian, Muslim terror cell from Pakistan? I don't see how that justifies the way they treated the locals. They were extremely poor winners. Once they gained control of Antelope, rather than work with the townsfolk, they changed the name to Rajneesh, renamed all of the streets, set up nude sunbathing in the town park, and harassed the population with church controlled police.
Not to mention importing, drugging, and releasing thousands of homeless people all over Oregon and poisoning 700 people in an attempt to rig an election or plotting to assassinate a US attorney. Those people were complete garbage.
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Damn, I think you missed almost all of why this happened.
I'll skip simply to why they purchased even the FIRST weapon... do you remember when that was, what happened and who was the catalyst?
Because their hotel was bombed by an anti-Indian, Muslim terror cell from Pakistan? I don't see how that justifies the way they treated the locals. They were extremely poor winners. Once they gained control of Antelope, rather than work with the townsfolk, they changed the name to Rajneesh, renamed all of the streets, set up nude sunbathing in the town park, and harassed the population with church controlled police.
Not to mention importing, drugging, and releasing thousands of homeless people all over Oregon and poisoning 700 people in an attempt to rig an election or plotting to assassinate a US attorney. Those people were complete garbage.
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 2:58 pm to ThatMakesSense
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That town sure got lucky one of it's landowners was probably the most important person in the state at the time.
Yep. And another guy just happened to be college buddies with the state AG.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:46 pm to northshorebamaman
I think both sides handled it stupidly.
The townies immediately getting upset was absurd.
The Reds purging the city council and fricking with the city was outside what their whole mantra of 'community' was.
It could have ended there with people actually speaking to one another.
It seemed their commune was 20 Miles from town. I say let em be.
I think Nike Jr. Was sitting on his property with binoculars watching the hippies frick and getting off on it and maybe a little jealous.
The townies immediately getting upset was absurd.
The Reds purging the city council and fricking with the city was outside what their whole mantra of 'community' was.
It could have ended there with people actually speaking to one another.
It seemed their commune was 20 Miles from town. I say let em be.
I think Nike Jr. Was sitting on his property with binoculars watching the hippies frick and getting off on it and maybe a little jealous.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:16 pm to ThatMakesSense
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It seemed their commune was 20 Miles from town. I say let em be.
The Rajneesh were using the town as blackmail to have their ranch rezoned. The townies seemed to be mostly just bewildered by the commune before their town was invaded.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:09 pm to northshorebamaman
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The Rajneesh were using the town as blackmail to have their ranch rezoned. The townies seemed to be mostly just bewildered by the commune before their town was invaded.
The Raj only started using Antelope as blackmail after everyone got in a tizzy about incorporating Rajneeshpuram and the whole separation of church and state.
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:15 pm to ThatMakesSense
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The Raj only started using Antelope as blackmail after everyone got in a tizzy about incorporating Rajneeshpuram and the whole separation of church and state.
I don't feel like this post is in disagreement with what I said.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:22 pm to northshorebamaman
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I don't feel like this post is in disagreement with what I said.
No, I agree fully. The addition of the church and state aspect came about when Guru guy was applying for the religious Visa.
They did make a solid point about Mormons in Utah and Catholics in Boston. For comparability.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:23 pm to ThatMakesSense
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The Raj only started using Antelope as blackmail after everyone got in a tizzy about incorporating Rajneeshpuram
Also, the people of Antelope had little to no say about zoning and incorporation in Rajneeshpuram so I'm not sure why you consider the subsequent takeover of their town to be in any way justified by that.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:26 pm to ThatMakesSense
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No, I agree fully. The addition of the church and state aspect came about when Guru guy was applying for the religious Visa.
They did make a solid point about Mormons in Utah and Catholics in Boston. For comparability.
OK, got you. It sounded like you were somewhat excusing the actions of the Raj against Antelope when they were only guilty of acting like any small town would in the face of those people.
The difference with the Mormons is they built their community in a uninhabited (well, white people anyways) territory. I'm not even sure if it was in the US at the time. The Raj were attempting a takeover (by their own admission) of a populated county.
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:30 pm to ThatMakesSense
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This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:33 pm to northshorebamaman
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It sounded like you were somewhat excusing the actions of the Raj against Antelope when they were only guilty of acting like any small town would in the face of those people.
Not excusing it but, if I remember correctly, the environmental people came in at the behest of outreach from the townspeople.
That was when the Raj decided to take over the town.
Do you think if the Raj would have been upfront and said, 'Hey, we want to throw a community in up here' this all would have been avoided?
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