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re: Wicked
Posted on 2/12/24 at 12:49 pm to oogabooga68
Posted on 2/12/24 at 12:49 pm to oogabooga68
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Um...no.
Um…yes.
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Posted on 2/12/24 at 12:56 pm to skrayper
There have been a fair number of Jewish actresses who have played Elphaba.
But if we get anything similar to what Erivo is capable of, the music is going to be fantastic at least. Here are her performances from the Tonys (Color Purple) and Oscars (Harriet)
Tonys (Start @ 2:53)
Oscars
But if we get anything similar to what Erivo is capable of, the music is going to be fantastic at least. Here are her performances from the Tonys (Color Purple) and Oscars (Harriet)
Tonys (Start @ 2:53)
Oscars
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:00 pm to Dr RC
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What the frick is w/the recent trend of studios refusing to advertise musicals as musicals?
It's definitely a thing, lately. Not sure what's up with that.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:03 pm to skrayper
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I never saw the musical (or read the book), so after seeing the trailer I was curious if the original Wicked was basically Cruella before Cruella.
This. Elphaba is a female anti-hero who is portrayed in the book/Broadway musical as having understandable motivations for ending up where she is when we meet the WWW in Wizard of Oz.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:08 pm to Bham4Tide
We've seen it on Broadway and in Houston at the Hobby.
Mrs. Midnight will likely watch the film out of curiosity, but her expectations are currently low.
Mrs. Midnight will likely watch the film out of curiosity, but her expectations are currently low.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:11 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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The musical strips away a lot of the political undertones, but keeps the main idea, which is the question of what exactly does it mean to be wicked.
Meh. Not really. It hits the audience with the message like a bludgeon. I can appreciate it for what it is (and the theater folks who present this show have been top shelf in my 2 experiences), but let's not pretend the musical isn't "all in" against white supremacy/racism, classism and the patriarchy.
This post was edited on 2/12/24 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:25 pm to Dawgsontop34
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But if we get anything similar to what Erivo is capable of, the music is going to be fantastic at least. Here are her performances from the Tonys (Color Purple) and Oscars (Harriet)
She truly has a great set of pipes. As you said, I expect the vocals to be top notch (and Grande can pull off her part too IMO).
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:31 pm to Locoguan0
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throwing in some race/class stuff just for fun.
#GreenLivesMatter
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:38 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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#GreenLivesMatter
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Green Chili Tiger
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:45 pm to oogabooga68
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Um...no.
None of this exists without Baum's original.
Uh...yeah. The movie is based on the musical, which in turn is based on the Gregory McGuire novel. Sure, it uses characters from the original story, but the plot is taken from McGuire's work not Baum's.
If you can't understand that, then it sounds like you're the idiot.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:51 pm to Ace Midnight
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Meh. Not really. It hits the audience with the message like a bludgeon. I can appreciate it for what it is (and the theater folks who present this show have been top shelf in my 2 experiences), but let's not pretend the musical isn't "all in" against white supremacy/racism, classism and the patriarchy.
I'm as sick of the anti-white, anti-patriarchy garbage as anyone, but I've seen the show 3 times and never felt like I was being lectured to. Now, the book is another story. That said, the musical debuted over 20 years ago. Long before most of this race-baiting shite began.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 3:03 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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The movie is based on the musical, which in turn is based on the Gregory McGuire novel.
A novel based on......come on....ur almost there....
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:29 pm to Nutriaitch
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but really don't want Hollywood fricking up the original.
The Judy Garland musical is not original Oz movie. It wasn’t even second or third.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 5:40 am to Bham4Tide
I wonder what the Venn diagram with the two cohorts being:
1. people who complain about a prequel story that paints a different picture of the facts leading up to another story
2. people who actively seek out alternate facts and theories that paint a different picture of events in the real world that have been obfuscated by forces
I would image the area of that Venn diagram would be exactly p * r2.
1. people who complain about a prequel story that paints a different picture of the facts leading up to another story
2. people who actively seek out alternate facts and theories that paint a different picture of events in the real world that have been obfuscated by forces
I would image the area of that Venn diagram would be exactly p * r2.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 6:25 am to oogabooga68
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A novel based on......come on....ur almost there....
Are you retarded?
Posted on 2/13/24 at 6:54 am to Mo Jeaux
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Are you retarded?
No.
I take dumps smarter than you.
Next question?
Posted on 2/13/24 at 6:58 am to Dawgsontop34
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There have been a fair number of Jewish actresses who have played Elphaba.
Elphaba = is actually a play on L Frank Baum's name.
As I said, without Baums' work, none of this exists.
It isn't arguable.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:02 am to Dr RC
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The Judy Garland musical is not original Oz movie. It wasn’t even second or third.
True, but is by far the most iconic.
Despite the differences with the books, it has become the "real Oz" if you will, due to its popularity.
The silent films are sort of eerie mainly due to the limitations of the time.
Some of the costumes are....umm....yeah.
The thing I love about Baum/Tolkien are the sheer sizes of the Universes they created.
It's not easy to write a good, coherent story, but to create whole Universes with multiple characters is something else altogether.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:04 am to oogabooga68
How do you know that? What would cause you to think that I’m not smart?
You see, you’ve made some very stupid statements in this thread (and others, let’s not kid ourselves) that would lead people t0 believe that you’re not that smart. So, explain yourself.
We all know that The Wonderful Wizard of Oz by L. Frank Baum is the original work. We know that Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West was a retelling of that original story, and we all know that the musical is based on that retelling. You seem to be unable to get over that last hump though. It’s weird. What’s the disconnect for you?
You see, you’ve made some very stupid statements in this thread (and others, let’s not kid ourselves) that would lead people t0 believe that you’re not that smart. So, explain yourself.
We all know that The Wonderful Wizard of Oz by L. Frank Baum is the original work. We know that Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West was a retelling of that original story, and we all know that the musical is based on that retelling. You seem to be unable to get over that last hump though. It’s weird. What’s the disconnect for you?
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:08 am to Mo Jeaux
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What’s the disconnect for you?
There is no disconnect.
I made a simple, inarguable statement of fact: Without Baums' work, none of this exists.
You flailing vaginas have an issue with that.
That's a "you" problem.
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