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Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:08 am to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58964 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:08 am to
quote:

As I said, without Baums' work, none of this exists.

It isn't arguable.


You keep saying this as if it’s some sort of revelatory statement. It’s not.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58964 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:09 am to
quote:

You flailing vaginas have an issue with that.


No one does. We’re just laughing at you.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:12 am to
quote:

You keep saying this as if it’s some sort of revelatory statement. It’s not.

quote:


Me: Um...no.

None of this exists without Baum's original.


quote:

You: Um…yes.


"Um...yes" was a stupid answer on your part.

Judging by your newest post where you now admit none of this exists without Baums' original work, I've educated you and you may now edit your original reply.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:13 am to
quote:

No one does. We’re just laughing at you.


Awesome!

Bringing joy to simpletons is one of my greatest pleasures!
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58964 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:16 am to
Bitch, your stupid “um…no” statement was made to someone who stated that the musical is based on the retelling, not the original story. That’s a fact. Your sensitivity to the retelling is making you retarded.
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 7:17 am
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:18 am to
quote:

Bitch, your stupid


Awwww....you gettin' mad, sweetheart?

At least you are now admitting my statement is inarguably true: None of this exists without Baums' original hard work.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:19 am to
quote:

Your sensitivity to the retelling is making you retarded.


I'm simply educating the ignorant.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50639 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:35 am to
quote:

Um...no.

None of this exists without Baum's original.


It's honestly shocking that people are taking issue with this statement. I think Wicked is a fantastic play, but this comment is clearly and obviously accurate.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:42 am to
quote:

It's honestly shocking that people are taking issue with this statement.


Nah....it's 2024 and this is a message board.

Some are honestly taking issue and some are sht-posting.

As for me, I spit on "Wicked" and everything about it, mainly because I have such admiration for unique, creative minds.

Baum/Tolkien etc. created such incredible, unique, vast worlds and I'm not a fan of people taking those ideas, perverting them, adding a few rhinestones and crowing about THEIR "original" works, especially when it is so blatantly disrespectful and offensive towards the original.

I'm a creator and I understand who hard it is to do anything even remotely approaching original and I know Baum would be repulsed at what many have done to his works.

To each his/her own.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50639 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:47 am to
I think Wicked is pretty respectful of the source material. Sure, it changes the motivations and intentions of many characters, but it doesn't spit all over the original work.

There's a retelling of Beowulf out there put out by some feminist psycho that is absolutely egregious. This ain't that.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:55 am to
quote:

but it doesn't spit all over the original work.


I think Baum would have been upset with the beastiality and sex in general in the novel.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50639 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:58 am to
quote:

I think Baum would have been upset with the beastiality and sex in general in the novel.


You are probably correct. I haven't actually read the book and was specifically talking about the play.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:02 am to
quote:

I haven't actually read the book and was specifically talking about the play.




Understood, but to me, they are simply one and the same poisoned fruit.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25729 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:57 am to
quote:

Baum/Tolkien etc. created such incredible, unique, vast worlds and I'm not a fan of people taking those ideas, perverting them, adding a few rhinestones and crowing about THEIR "original" works, especially when it is so blatantly disrespectful and offensive towards the original.


The ruby red slippers really pisses you off as it defeats the original metaphor... I'm sure.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56424 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 10:38 am to
quote:

the musical is based on the retelling, not the original story.
k
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 10:54 am to
quote:

k


I mean the idiocy of his quote....
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56424 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 10:56 am to
"it's not a degenerate warping of the original. It's an adaptation of a degenerate warping of the original."

"so there!"
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 10:59 am to
quote:

"it's not a degenerate warping of the original. It's an adaptation of a degenerate warping of the original."

"so there!"


Posted by sqerty
AP
Member since May 2022
5085 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:17 pm to
If anybody thinks this isn't gonna be some empowering woke garbage is delusional.

Green is black.
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