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re: Why was Robert the Bruce portrayed as weak in “Braveheart”?

Posted on 11/4/19 at 10:14 am to
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 11/4/19 at 10:14 am to
I don't think he's weak. He realizes listening to his father was a mistake, and takes charge of the army at the end.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 11/4/19 at 10:34 am to
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The princess would have been about 5 at the time, so Wallace fricking her is a tad odd...

Well, this is Hollywood after all.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 11/4/19 at 10:40 am to
For a good synopsis of Braveheart's historical inaccuracies... History Buffs on Youtube
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 11/4/19 at 11:52 am to
Because Mel Gibson was playing the main, but less important historically, main character.
Posted by blackinthesaddle
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Posted on 11/4/19 at 1:04 pm to
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I don't think he's weak. He realizes listening to his father was a mistake, and takes charge of the army at the end.


That's how it's played in the movie, but if we think politically, it was probably more accurate to think of his father's allegiance to the English being outweighed by the unenviable position of being caught in the middle of a Scottish uprising. He waited to see which side would have the upper hand before ditching his old alliance. He knows that the English will eventually return, and he, being nobility will be forgiven for the sin of changing alliance to save his own arse when he switches back to their side.
Posted by bountyhunter
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Posted on 11/4/19 at 4:15 pm to
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The entire movie is riddled with historical inaccuracies. Actually there’s too many to name, the Bruce being a pussy has never bothered me because I hated the actor anyways.

There is so little historical merit to the film it shouldn't even be regarded as historical fiction. Not sure what Mel's fascination is with seeing himself being tortured on film. I'm sure if he could cast himself as Joan of Arc he would have by now.
This post was edited on 11/4/19 at 4:16 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 11/4/19 at 5:42 pm to
Robert Bruce was a better military leader than William Wallace. Wallace wins one battle and he's suddenly up there with the greats of history, yet Bruce beat the English multiple times.

Posted by OldmanBeasley
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Posted on 11/4/19 at 6:19 pm to
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I'm sure if he could cast himself as Joan of Arc he would have by now.

Actually now would be the perfect time for this. Mel could completely redeem himself with liberals by being the face of the tranny movement
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 11/4/19 at 6:35 pm to
Robert The Bruce did become a great warrior, starting with a very small force and barely surviving early encounters to emerge victorious.

Of course, I'm pretty sure he murdered a rival to the throne in a church, so his rep is not without blemishes.
Posted by Boo Krewe
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:57 am to
Because he initially knew that English would win till they could wage guireilla warfare
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:51 pm to
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At any rate all those dudes would spin in their graves if they got a look at modern Scots.



what do you know about "Modern Scots" besides what Fox news tells you?
Posted by Boo Krewe
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 8:07 pm to
Any books to read about Edward longshhanks
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:58 pm to
All I know is that scene when Wallace gets drawn and quartered makes me hurt down there. I’d have Had one of my boys Epstein me if I thought I had that coming.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 10:02 pm to
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All I know is that scene when Wallace gets drawn and quartered makes me hurt down there.


I have never, ever watched that scene. I've heard that scene coming from another room. I've watched most/all of the rest of the film.

Never that scene. Not even once.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 6:12 am to
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have never, ever watched that scene. I've heard that scene coming from another room. I've watched most/all of the rest of the film.

Never that scene. Not even once.


Very same for me

But I don’t watch 12 replays (or even 1) of gruesome football injuries either.
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 6:14 am
Posted by LordSaintly
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:28 am to
That scene isn’t very graphic. They don’t actually show his entrails or anything.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:46 am to
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Very little is actually known of Wallace outside of the fact he was a Scottish rebel who led a very shocking upset victory over the English in that one battle of Sterling Bridge and that he was eventually caught, tortured, and killed.

He was a Scottish Noble, and there is lots of info about him out there. . .just not much before he aced that sheriff
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:50 am to
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but less important historically, main character.
Meh. Both share importance

Wallace got the charge to independence rolling. Robbie won the independence

Wallace was, say pre-declaration John Adams with a hard on for fighting the brits.

Robert was George Washington.

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