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re: Why do we not get more Revolutionary War movies or miniseries?

Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:46 am to
Posted by HeadCall
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:46 am to
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John Paul Jones


Would be a badass miniseries
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:46 am to
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You folks are saying this like we had some previous decade packed with American Revolution war pics.

Correct.

It's never been a big driver of content, at least in the talkie era onward.

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Growing up, we had Daniel Boone on NBC. That's about the only us vs the British thing that I remember being exposed to.


And various versions of the Last of the Mohicans
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:18 am to
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John Paul Jones
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Would be a badass miniseries

The Robert Stack film is pretty enjoyable. He can be a pretty wooden actor but the story carries itself.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:45 am to
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it is possible, of course. but there's no modern critical theory angle they can play

Are you trying to tell me Hollywood doesn’t want to make a movie about white male Christian nationalists freeing a population from tyrannical globalist rule?
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:00 am to
Hollywood is so woke they dont want to make America look good. Also they probably arent sure how to depict slaves or native americans.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:22 am to
Wars for independence are sexier than wars because your sailors keep getting kidnapped.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:35 am to
There are few things that Hollywood wants to endorse less than patriotism.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69849 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:45 am to
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Yeah and it sucks.


I realize opinions are subjective but it was very well-received by both critics and audiences when it was released.

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Jeff Daniels playing Washington is as questionable a casting as it gets


Quite. Who wants one of the best character actors from the 80s and 90s in the lead role of a film about George Washington?
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:16 pm to
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Patriotism and nationalism

Two very different things nobody is claiming patriotism is bad expect in the minds of certain people who needed to type victim
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:29 pm to
People just want to make up scenarios in their head instead where there's some big conspiracy or something. Honestly there haven't been that many pre WWI movies when compared to WWII, Vietnam, and the wars in the Middle East. In fact I can't remember many big war movies of the past 10 years other than

Dunkirk
American Sniper
1917
Hacksawridge
13 Hours
The Wall
All Quiet On The Western Front

There were some other ones that weren't as big like

Civil War
Thank You For Your Service
Warfare

Mentioned already was Turn which was fairly popular but seems to be the only major pre WWI movie/series
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67567 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:56 pm to
Someone needs to develop a good script first and foremost… If someone does it, you may have a valuable property and can attach a bankable star.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:56 pm to
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I wholeheartedly disagree with that. You had the underdog scenario obviously. Militiamen, that fought like Indians against overwhelming odds with the British Regulars. The British didn’t know how to respond on their retreat back to Boston. The militia kept hiding behind trees and walls taking potshots, it infuriated them that they wouldn’t line up and fight like Europeans.

It was the first revolution of a colony that ever threw off the yoke of its “owner” in the history of mankind.

Farmers, tanners, ferrymen, ironworkers, woodsmen, preachers, farriers, all came together and beat the most powerful empire in the history of the world.
It would be interesting to see something created that showed the reality of how ambiguous many of the "revolters" were while it was actually going on. GW had a very hard time getting Americans to stay reliably loyal to the cause, with the majority sort of hedging their bets.

The infamous winter at Valley Forge where they nearly starved featured nearby British troops that were very well supplied by local farmers.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 2:09 pm to
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Are you trying to tell me Hollywood doesn’t want to make a movie about white male Christian nationalists freeing a population from tyrannical globalist rule?


So... tariffs are tyranny? Ruh roh.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 2:10 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 2:31 pm to
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It would be interesting to see something created that showed the reality of how ambiguous many of the "revolters" were while it was actually going on. GW had a very hard time getting Americans to stay reliably loyal to the cause, with the majority sort of hedging their bets.

The infamous winter at Valley Forge where they nearly starved featured nearby British troops that were very well supplied by local farmers.

If you did make it realistic on this note, it would be called woke no doubt
Posted by OystermanTiger
Jacksonville, Fl.
Member since Mar 2015
627 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 2:40 pm to
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It was divine providence that we won.


No...It was the French.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 2:55 pm to
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If you did make it realistic on this note, it would be called woke no doubt
Exactly what I was thinking. I remember reading Chernow's book and being somewhat stunned at how non-fulsome the American effort really was. The average American was basically a cuck in today's parlance.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39023 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 2:59 pm to
I just don't think they know how to write it.

But agree with OP, the material is there, a complicated miracle of an event in history maybe too difficult to tell unless you shape it as black hat/white hat and whittle down the intrigue and issues like a children's book as The Patriot does.

For a Nation that loves Commemorating, we've done a poor job selling the Revolutionary War, forever overshadowed by what was to come 80 years later.

Plus, the current obscene trend of maligning the founding fathers in Academia and popular culture doesn't help.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51559 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:02 pm to
Weren't the Brits are also still hurting financially from the French-Indian war? Had to be stupid expensive to keep fighting another war across the ocean especially when the French started to make an alliance with the Americans
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 3:03 pm
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
22802 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:11 pm to
The John Adams series was really good.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466938 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:38 pm to
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Weren't the Brits are also still hurting financially from the French-Indian war?


I was actually coming to post something on these lines.

It's hard to really sell the American Revolution without giving the framing of the British Empire prior to the French and Indian War, and to really tell the story of the future American leaders/heroes, the French and Indian War is almost as important in building their character.

This is way too expansive for a movie. A TV series would need 2-3 seasons min to tell that story, too.
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