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Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:46 am to Fewer Kilometers
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You folks are saying this like we had some previous decade packed with American Revolution war pics.
Correct.
It's never been a big driver of content, at least in the talkie era onward.
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Growing up, we had Daniel Boone on NBC. That's about the only us vs the British thing that I remember being exposed to.
And various versions of the Last of the Mohicans
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:18 am to HeadCall
quote:The Robert Stack film is pretty enjoyable. He can be a pretty wooden actor but the story carries itself.
John Paul Jonesquote:
Would be a badass miniseries
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:45 am to Sam Quint
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it is possible, of course. but there's no modern critical theory angle they can play
Are you trying to tell me Hollywood doesn’t want to make a movie about white male Christian nationalists freeing a population from tyrannical globalist rule?
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:00 am to Frac the world
Hollywood is so woke they dont want to make America look good. Also they probably arent sure how to depict slaves or native americans.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:22 am to SlowFlowPro
Wars for independence are sexier than wars because your sailors keep getting kidnapped.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:35 am to Frac the world
There are few things that Hollywood wants to endorse less than patriotism.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:45 am to cfish140
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Yeah and it sucks.
I realize opinions are subjective but it was very well-received by both critics and audiences when it was released.
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Jeff Daniels playing Washington is as questionable a casting as it gets
Quite. Who wants one of the best character actors from the 80s and 90s in the lead role of a film about George Washington?
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:16 pm to The Pirate King
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Patriotism and nationalism
Two very different things nobody is claiming patriotism is bad expect in the minds of certain people who needed to type victim
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:29 pm to Fewer Kilometers
People just want to make up scenarios in their head instead where there's some big conspiracy or something. Honestly there haven't been that many pre WWI movies when compared to WWII, Vietnam, and the wars in the Middle East. In fact I can't remember many big war movies of the past 10 years other than
Dunkirk
American Sniper
1917
Hacksawridge
13 Hours
The Wall
All Quiet On The Western Front
There were some other ones that weren't as big like
Civil War
Thank You For Your Service
Warfare
Mentioned already was Turn which was fairly popular but seems to be the only major pre WWI movie/series
Dunkirk
American Sniper
1917
Hacksawridge
13 Hours
The Wall
All Quiet On The Western Front
There were some other ones that weren't as big like
Civil War
Thank You For Your Service
Warfare
Mentioned already was Turn which was fairly popular but seems to be the only major pre WWI movie/series
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:56 pm to Frac the world
Someone needs to develop a good script first and foremost… If someone does it, you may have a valuable property and can attach a bankable star.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:56 pm to Frac the world
quote:It would be interesting to see something created that showed the reality of how ambiguous many of the "revolters" were while it was actually going on. GW had a very hard time getting Americans to stay reliably loyal to the cause, with the majority sort of hedging their bets.
I wholeheartedly disagree with that. You had the underdog scenario obviously. Militiamen, that fought like Indians against overwhelming odds with the British Regulars. The British didn’t know how to respond on their retreat back to Boston. The militia kept hiding behind trees and walls taking potshots, it infuriated them that they wouldn’t line up and fight like Europeans.
It was the first revolution of a colony that ever threw off the yoke of its “owner” in the history of mankind.
Farmers, tanners, ferrymen, ironworkers, woodsmen, preachers, farriers, all came together and beat the most powerful empire in the history of the world.
The infamous winter at Valley Forge where they nearly starved featured nearby British troops that were very well supplied by local farmers.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 2:09 pm to tide06
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Are you trying to tell me Hollywood doesn’t want to make a movie about white male Christian nationalists freeing a population from tyrannical globalist rule?
So... tariffs are tyranny? Ruh roh.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 6/12/25 at 2:31 pm to Big Scrub TX
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It would be interesting to see something created that showed the reality of how ambiguous many of the "revolters" were while it was actually going on. GW had a very hard time getting Americans to stay reliably loyal to the cause, with the majority sort of hedging their bets.
The infamous winter at Valley Forge where they nearly starved featured nearby British troops that were very well supplied by local farmers.
If you did make it realistic on this note, it would be called woke no doubt
Posted on 6/12/25 at 2:40 pm to Frac the world
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It was divine providence that we won.
No...It was the French.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 2:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Exactly what I was thinking. I remember reading Chernow's book and being somewhat stunned at how non-fulsome the American effort really was. The average American was basically a cuck in today's parlance.
If you did make it realistic on this note, it would be called woke no doubt
Posted on 6/12/25 at 2:59 pm to Frac the world
I just don't think they know how to write it.
But agree with OP, the material is there, a complicated miracle of an event in history maybe too difficult to tell unless you shape it as black hat/white hat and whittle down the intrigue and issues like a children's book as The Patriot does.
For a Nation that loves Commemorating, we've done a poor job selling the Revolutionary War, forever overshadowed by what was to come 80 years later.
Plus, the current obscene trend of maligning the founding fathers in Academia and popular culture doesn't help.
But agree with OP, the material is there, a complicated miracle of an event in history maybe too difficult to tell unless you shape it as black hat/white hat and whittle down the intrigue and issues like a children's book as The Patriot does.
For a Nation that loves Commemorating, we've done a poor job selling the Revolutionary War, forever overshadowed by what was to come 80 years later.
Plus, the current obscene trend of maligning the founding fathers in Academia and popular culture doesn't help.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:02 pm to OystermanTiger
Weren't the Brits are also still hurting financially from the French-Indian war? Had to be stupid expensive to keep fighting another war across the ocean especially when the French started to make an alliance with the Americans
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:11 pm to Frac the world
The John Adams series was really good.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:38 pm to dawgfan24348
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Weren't the Brits are also still hurting financially from the French-Indian war?
I was actually coming to post something on these lines.
It's hard to really sell the American Revolution without giving the framing of the British Empire prior to the French and Indian War, and to really tell the story of the future American leaders/heroes, the French and Indian War is almost as important in building their character.
This is way too expansive for a movie. A TV series would need 2-3 seasons min to tell that story, too.
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