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re: Why did the Burt Wonderstone movie bomb so badly?

Posted on 3/17/13 at 5:44 pm to
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 3/17/13 at 5:44 pm to
Carrell did what most actors would do. No one knew that his success wouldn't translate.

Posted by WITNESS23
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Posted on 3/17/13 at 5:59 pm to
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but you'd think the premise and the star power alone should have been good for at least a $20M opening.


I hope that movies like this fail just so they won't make shite movies with "star power" and try to sell them to me
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 3/17/13 at 6:37 pm to
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But "Burt Wonderstone," which was in 3,160 theaters, pulled just $10.3 million out of its box-office hat. That's about $5 million less than analysts projected for the PG-13 film, produced by New Line and BenderSpink for an estimated $30 million.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 7:35 am to
So I guess I'm the only one who actually watched this movie?

It was decent and was actually funny in some parts but it wasn't an all out comedy either.

The problem with this movie wasn't the acting. Carell was actually pretty good in this. He played a confident character.

The issue with this movie was the writing/direction leading to a slight identity crisis with the movie (which I am seeing more and more in Hollywood lately).

I felt, at times, like they couldn't decide if this movie was a comedy or drama.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 9:44 am to
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I felt, at times, like they couldn't decide if this movie was a comedy or drama.


And therein lies the marketing problem. A dramedy is marketable, but it has to actually be marketed that way. The marketing for this movie, and it was very minimal, suggested this was a slapstick, stupid comedy. Hell, the premise is ridiculous. Plus, I feel like slapstick comedies haven't been doing all that well recently, so to market this movie that way was a really poor decision.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 10:30 am to
I plan on seeing it. I love me some Steve carell and a few parts of the trailers have made me lol a bit. Mainly the "my next trick will be to stay in this box for seven days" then you see him up in the box touching the walls going "wow this box is smaller than I thought it would be." That's typical Steve carell and I'll take that. I'm obviously not expecting it to be the greatest comedy ever, but if it makes me laugh throughout then I'll like it.


quote:

Why did the Burt Wonderstone movie bomb so badly?



quote:

I have no interest in seeing it in theaters and the previews don't look all that great,


You answered you're question with the first sentence of your post. Maybe bc the general public feels that way.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:50 am to
Saw it last night.


quote:

So I guess I'm the only one who actually watched this movie? It was decent and was actually funny in some parts but it wasn't an all out comedy either. The problem with this movie wasn't the acting. Carell was actually pretty good in this. He played a confident character. The issue with this movie was the writing/direction leading to a slight identity crisis with the movie (which I am seeing more and more in Hollywood lately). I felt, at times, like they couldn't decide if this movie was a comedy or drama.



I didn't hate it. I really like Steve Carell though, and stupid comedies, and Olivia Wilde is smoking hot so all those things helped.

The first 1/3 of the movie was pretty weak though. Don't think I laughed at all in the first 30 minutes.

Jim Carrey's character was pretty awesome. He was money pretty solid throughout. His anti-gun laws drive me freaking crazy but surprisingly I could put that aside and laugh at him. I'm bad about disliking people for outside of acting stuff.

The birthday scene had me rolling.

I laughed a number of times, that's why I go see a comedy so I didn't leave mad at paying $8.75. But it is probably a wait for the DVD movie.

I didn't get the feeling that it was trying to be a drama at all.

Posted by Napoleon
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 12:25 pm to
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two reasons -

1. people download stuff for free

2. people are too cheap to pay for anything nowadays


yet the top highest grossing movies except for Titanic have all come out in the downloading age.

Invalid argument is invalid.

Posted by kage
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 2:25 pm to
I wouldn't go see Burt Wonderstone if you paid me and promised me a handjob through a bucket of popcorn. This movie looks that bad to me.


Also, if it's a movie that I'm not really, really excited about, I can always wait until it's out on Netflix.
This post was edited on 3/25/13 at 2:27 pm
Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 2:28 pm to
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Why did the Burt Wonderstone movie bomb so badly?


Because, like 75% of the movies released in the past decade or so, it looks horrible.
Posted by HeadSlash
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 2:43 pm to
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Probably because it looks fricking retarded and no one wants to go pay $10 to see shite that isn't even worth a download.



This and it looks like a Will Ferrell retread.
Posted by BTHog
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 3:02 pm to
I predict many more failure movies in the future. Went to see Snitch Friday night, $25 in gas to get the movies, $50 for dinner, $20 for two movie tickets, $25 for popcorn/drinks/candy

for a movie that wasn't any better than anything I couldn't hae stayed home and watched on NetFlix.

frick the movies, I'm done going for the foreseeable future.

Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 3:12 pm to
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I hope that movies like this fail just so they won't make shite movies with "star power" and try to sell them to me


Good luck with that. It's hollywood, actors will still make movies even if they think it's a steaming pile of shite just for a buck. After all those stupid disaster/date/epic movies, and Adam Sandler's run of crap the last decade, I'm convinced movies will still pump out regardless of how terrible they are as long as people are getting paid.

And unfortunately, we have enough idiots in this country that will think it's funny and continue to go see them.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 3:15 pm to
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Went to see Snitch Friday night, $25 in gas to get the movies


Is your nearest theater like 40 miles away?
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

I predict many more failure movies in the future.


Really going out on a limb on that one.
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 5:42 pm to
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yet the top highest grossing movies except for Titanic have all come out in the downloading age.

Invalid argument is invalid.



orly?

I wonder what happens when you adjust for inflation?










LINK



hmmm....

that seems to change things







This post was edited on 3/25/13 at 6:09 pm
Posted by jacks40
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 5:51 pm to
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I wonder what happens when you adjust for inflation?


Your adjusting for inflation chart is just domestic not worldwide.
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 6:09 pm to
you dont need to adjust for worldwide inflation to be able to tell that the top grossing movies of all time are not coming from this era.

the US is a big enough chunk of their profits that you can plainly see that big tent pole movies are making "less" these days.


you can also look at ticket sales

With 314 million people now vs 231 million in 1982 ticket sales from "the downloading years" should dwarf the old numbers.

except they dont


LINK
This post was edited on 3/25/13 at 6:10 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 6:20 pm to

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With 314 million people now vs 231 million in 1982 ticket sales from "the downloading years" should dwarf the old numbers.



I disagree with this. How many movies did each of those movies compete against?

Was there network and cable TV providing endless entertainment? Was there a netflix or any other competition?
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 7:19 pm to
quote:

With 314 million people now vs 231 million in 1982 ticket sales from "the downloading years" should dwarf the old numbers.

Except they don't



Yeah and if you ignore any of the other factors that have influenced theaters and focus only downloading that might mean something.

To have an intellectually honest discussion though you have to include factors like how the # of entertainment choices have skyrocketed, the % of home theater systems in homes today compared to 1982, to say nothing of how the number of choices in theaters has increased causing a cannabilstic effect on their own numbers.

And world wide gross does matter bc piracy is a worldwide phenomon. Yet movies are still making billions of dollars.
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