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re: Who do you want to win the Iron Throne?

Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:57 am to
Posted by JGood
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:57 am to
I don't see how that would happen? Mance has been in the north for years and years. That would conflict with H'gar and even before the rebellion.

I like the H'gar and even Syrio Forel. Both have a connection to Arya (looks/acts exactly like Lyanna who Rhaegar loves), great fighters, etc. The rubies on his shield are telling because rubies are the tools of shapeshifters. And the fact they never found his body
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 8:58 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:47 am to
So I'm the only one tired of hearing how "honorable" the Starks are?
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:52 am to
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So I'm the only one tired of hearing how "honorable" the Starks are?


Relative to everyone else, yes I'd say they've kept their honor more than others. Yes, Robb broke his promise to the Freys, but as someone mentioned it was only because honor dictated the woman that he had slept with. If I'm not mistaken, the books infer that he only did that because he was grieving because he thought Rickon and Bran had been killed.

Then he executed one of his chief bannerman when he beheaded Lord Karstark because he killed the boy hostages. He knew that killing Karstark would cause him to lose a sizeable portion of his army by doing that, but he felt that no one was above the law.

No one is saying the Starks are angels, but relative to others I'd say they've done way better than most.
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 9:54 am
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:57 am to
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"But, my family." bullshite. YOUR HONOR MOTHERfrickER - THAT'S ALL YOU EVER HAD. Done with Ned Stark. Good riddance.


Don't forget his heroics in killing Lady (Sansa's direwolk)- oh the honorable Ned and his honorable self always above everyone else doing the honorable quick kill as only honorable Ned could do.




Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 10:02 am to
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Jon Snow would be a crappy winner. He was terrible in battle, his arse had to be saved.
what? he has never been beaten in one on one battle, was shown as being more than capable of leading men in battle at the wall, and only was getting his arse kicked at the battle of the bastards because sansa straight up, 100% pulled some hardcore bullshite on not letting him know the knights of the vail were coming. you can argue he fricked the plan up at the battle when he ran out onto the field, but i have a hard time believing anyone else would not have done the same
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been killed once
and stuff like this will probably be his undoing. he doesnt play the game. but, in a vacuum, that probably makes him the most worthy of winning.

he was an awful character in the early show, but has slowly become probably the most deserving of winning
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 10:04 am
Posted by Cregg
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 10:03 am to
The true hero of the series. Ser Jaime Lannister
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 10:26 am to
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Then he executed one of his chief bannerman when he beheaded Lord Karstark because he killed the boy hostages.


Right - they were at war. I get that justice must be served, but he could make that good - AFTER you win the war. He's the King in the North. Impose sentence, pardon the cat, tell him "We win the war and you're probably going to have to take the black - probably your son, too. So, keep that in mind."

Another example of wearing honor like the new fashion and not sticking with it when it counts.

Where was his honor when he was sleeping with that girl AFTER he was promised to another? Discarded when he felt like it.

Posted by TideWarrior
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 10:59 am to
In regards to Fire & Ice it may be Jon but I am guessing their child is the true Fire and Ice. I see their child ending up on the throne with Tyrion as the Hand.

I think Daenerys dies and probably in child birth like Jon's mother.

Jon has never seen to be happy about being a king. Maybe die a from a wound in the final battle but see his daughter being born first.

Sansa & Gendry I see getting married and ruling the north together. Interesting the first episode we see a dead dire wolf and stag that had clashed, both sigil's on their houses. Where they rule from though as we know that Winterfell burns but I guess they could rebuild.

Arya I see leaving for adventure in the end if she lives. Would be cool though to see her walk in as someone like Euron Greyjoy to kill Cersei in the end.

The Iron Throne I think will be destroyed. Cersei will blow up the whole city with green fire before letting the Dothraki or anyone in.

Whoever rules it be from Dragonstone

Now what would be funny is the only two standing and left to rule would be Tormund & Briennee.
Posted by BamaMan45
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 11:06 am to
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Sansa & Gendry I see getting married and ruling the north together.

I think you may be right but have the wrong Stark daughter here. Arya and Gendry have spent time together and seemed to have a solid bond during the escape from King's Landing. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them end up together.
This post was edited on 3/4/19 at 1:34 pm
Posted by GWfool
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 11:07 am to
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t will be Jon....if there is an iron throne. The teaser trailer shows the crypt statues at Winterfell; Jon's is an old man while Sansa and Arya's are young.
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This is a great point. Unless hbo is trying to throw us off....wouldn’t hate if the night king wins
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 11:15 am to
It’s going to be Jon and Dany’s son who sits on the throne. Jon and Danny are dead, kid will be raised by Tyrion. Maybe Sansa as well if she gets back with Tyrion.
Posted by volnavy
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 11:17 am to
Rickon will rule from Winterfell
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 12:14 pm to
As long as it’s not Lord Robin Arryn ( that little twat) I’m good. I’m pulling for Tyrion , Jon and Arya. I think Jamie’s redemption is cool, but the extreme pathos ensures his heroic death imho. Sansa bores me. Dany would suck as a ruler. Cersei needs to die badly. Samwell Tarly has a front and center view of it all somehow.
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 12:45 pm to
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Right - they were at war. I get that justice must be served, but he could make that good - AFTER you win the war


Exactly. I'm with you. It was a stupid decision, but that speaks even more to Robb. He knew the damage it would do to his war effort and to the long relationship with Karstarks, but he did it because it was just.

Stupid. But just.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 1:07 pm to
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Rickon will rule from Winterfell



He dead bro
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:06 pm to
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The true hero of the series. Ser Jaime Lannister


Jaime is without a doubt the best character and most well developed character by far. He’s easily my favorite character in the show with the most nuance.

The bath scene
Posted by tbabino
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 3:04 pm to
Bryann of Tarth
Posted by brmark70816
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 4:18 pm to
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He wouldn’t have had to have his arse saved if Sansa wouldn’t have kept the Knights of the Vale a secret like the cold bitch she is.


I think the reason Jon forgave her so quick, if he was ever mad, is cause he knows he would have lost without her. If she tells him about the deal (to join up with Littlefinger and support him), I don't think he agrees to it. But even if he does, when he shows up on the battle field with the Vale army, Ramsey would not have fought him. Ramsey was too smart. He would have stayed in Winterfell and waited out the siege. Jon, even with the new army, could not have taken Winterfell, especially with winter coming. Sansa, probably not intentionally, played it perfectly. They aren't taking Winterfell any other way..

Btw, I am getting the feeling that Tyrion turns on Dany and Jon. He made some kind of deal with Cersei and is still loyal to Jaime. If he believes she is carrying Jaime's baby, he might be compelled to work against Jon/Dany. Plus he seemed really out of it when his family's army was slaughtered. Those were his men..
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 4:20 pm to
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Jaime is without a doubt the best character and most well developed character by far. He’s easily my favorite character in the show with the most nuance.


The problem is that the writers try to degrade him constantly. fricking Cersei after blowing up the Sept.
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 4:21 pm
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89039 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 5:13 pm to
They’re gonna frick everybody over and Cersei will be the last one standing.
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