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Which character(s) do you think was the most unfortunate to have been left out of LOTR?
Posted on 7/21/26 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 7/21/26 at 9:49 pm
Tom Bombadil & Goldberry (
for her)
Glorfindel
Imrahil
Grey Company (specifically Halbarad, Elladan, & Elrohir)
Fatty Bolger
A few others that were left out. Who do yall think was the most egregious or unfortunate subtraction from the script?
Glorfindel
Imrahil
Grey Company (specifically Halbarad, Elladan, & Elrohir)
Fatty Bolger
A few others that were left out. Who do yall think was the most egregious or unfortunate subtraction from the script?
Posted on 7/21/26 at 11:55 pm to grizzlylongcut
Glorfindel for sure, although if I had my pick Tom Bombadil & Goldberry would have been top of my list to add.
However, the scouring of the shire being left out is more egregious than those. That's the only unforgivable change imo.
However, the scouring of the shire being left out is more egregious than those. That's the only unforgivable change imo.
This post was edited on 7/22/26 at 12:16 am
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:01 am to grizzlylongcut
Tom Bombadil for sure. There's a lot of discussion about what this dude is since the ring had zero effect on him. He's just a very strange anomaly.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 6:29 am to Ham Solo
The were two levels of divine beings in Tolkien's world: Ainur, who became the gods of Middle-Earth, and Maiar, who were more like angels and who generally filled various roles in service to the gods. The Wizards, Balrogs, and Sauron himself were all Maiar, amongst many others. Bombadil is clearly an Ainur, though he did not seek to impose his own vision on Middle-Earth and therefore did not join with the other gods to try and guide the mortal races. He was content simply to enjoy creation as it was - but even so, as an Ainur his power would have been far beyond that of any Maiar, hence the Ring had no effect on him.
The book character most unfortunate to have been left out of the movies is Faramir. The Faramir of the films is a completely different character from that of the books.
The book character most unfortunate to have been left out of the movies is Faramir. The Faramir of the films is a completely different character from that of the books.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 6:34 am to BamaSaint
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Sharky
This.
I get why it was not included, but it is an integral part of the book
Posted on 7/22/26 at 6:37 am to grizzlylongcut
Fatty could have chewed up some of the comic scenery that was given to Gimli. He wasn’t in the story very much though.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 6:39 am to grizzlylongcut
Not a character but the scouring of the Shire.
I think, if you have to cut something, Bombadil was pretty logical. He was an interesting character but he didn't really impact the overall story.
I think, if you have to cut something, Bombadil was pretty logical. He was an interesting character but he didn't really impact the overall story.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 1:08 pm to grizzlylongcut
I'm a huge fan of the books, from long before the movies were made. My perspective-
Would have been fascinating, but you need too much time for a storyline that goes nowhere.
I can see why it happened. It gives the viewer a chance to learn Arwen, and you don't have the issue of "why isn't he in the Fellowship"
To me, these are egregious omissions. You're not saving time really, it just happens because PJ wanted to use the Dead instead of actual heroic deeds by Men at the Pellenor Fields.
By far the worst part of the movies.
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Tom Bombadil & Goldberry
Would have been fascinating, but you need too much time for a storyline that goes nowhere.
quote:
Glorfindel
I can see why it happened. It gives the viewer a chance to learn Arwen, and you don't have the issue of "why isn't he in the Fellowship"
quote:
Imrahil
Grey Company (specifically Halbarad, Elladan, & Elrohir)
To me, these are egregious omissions. You're not saving time really, it just happens because PJ wanted to use the Dead instead of actual heroic deeds by Men at the Pellenor Fields.
By far the worst part of the movies.
quote:The conspiracy is interesting, but unnecessary for time purposes. Just like Bombadil, everything between Gandalf revealing what the Ring is to Frodo, and the hobbit's arrival at Bree, can be skimmed over and deleted for brevity's sake.
Fatty Bolger
Posted on 7/22/26 at 1:12 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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The were two levels of divine beings in Tolkien's world: Ainur, who became the gods of Middle-Earth, and Maiar, who were more like angels and who generally filled various roles in service to the gods
Wrong.
They were all Ainur. The higher level is the Valar, the lesser is the Maiar.
There's a 1-2 sentence note that the Valar are also of different levels, with the Aratar (about 6 maybe?) being as far above the other Valar, as the Valar were above the Maiar.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 1:17 pm to Scoob
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To me, these are egregious omissions. You're not saving time really, it just happens because PJ wanted to use the Dead instead of actual heroic deeds by Men at the Pellenor Fields. By far the worst part of the movies.
I think for Imrahil it would’ve taken a good amount of time to explain to non book readers who he was in relation to Gondor especially when they hadn’t really mentioned his realm until later in ROTK. But I do agree with you on him and the Grey Company.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 5:38 pm to Scoob
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They were all Ainur. The higher level is the Valar, the lesser is the Maiar. There's a 1-2 sentence note that the Valar are also of different levels, with the Aratar (about 6 maybe?) being as far above the other Valar, as the Valar were above the Maiar.
There’s about a hundred levels to the world of middle earth that Tolkien created. So much info.
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