re: Where does Moana rank all time for Disney animated movies?

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Tangled

criminally underrated

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Tangled gets better every time I watch it. I legitimately don't know how it could be improved - it's funny, the action scenes are great, the songs are great, the characters are memorable, it's fairly short with a quick pace - only taking a minute to breath when they reach the city.

As far as recent Disney goes, I've got

1. Tangled
2. Frozen
3. Moana
4. Wreck-It Ralph
5. Zootopia

Frozen 2 and Ralph Breaks the Internet were nigh-unwatchable trash that I made it through once and have no interest in watching again. I still haven't watched Big Hero Six, but I assume it would easily be top 5 and probably challenge top 3.

The original Frozen gets hated on a lot but I think it's a home run. I love all the songs, I love the plot twists and evolution of the story. Olaf is annoying, but so is a character in every kids movie. "Let It Go" got overplayed...because it's a fricking stand out incredible song. I never really get tired of my toddler watching it.

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His journey was complete the moment he got off that island. If you want to nitpick, you can say it was after he got his Samoan sword back from ole shiny boy, either way, his journey was complete 45 minutes in. He could have dipped and she would have been screwed.

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Not really, he was the one who stole the heart to begin with and set in motion the whole thing. He needed to restore it and redeem himself.

Place called Slaughter Race was great, but that was a classic case of a meh movie being elevated by a handful of great moments.

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His journey was complete the moment he got off that island. If you want to nitpick, you can say it was after he got his Samoan sword back from ole shiny boy, either way, his journey was complete 45 minutes in. He could have dipped and she would have been screwed.

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Yeah he could have dipped and enjoyed a lovely eternity in the darkness once the world was swallowed by it if she failed in restoring the heart that he stole.

Having the grand kids overlast night we watch Moana, Frozen and now Frozen 2

Moana is my favorite. It seems happier and I enjoy the music.

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still think it’s funny that women hold it, Frozen, and Mad Max:Fury Road up as great movies that feature exceptional independent female protagonists when in reality, the female heroines would have been done 20 minutes into the movie without the male lead, but whatever.

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You're talking about dumb internet's conversation with itself, not women. Fury road isn't exactly popular with women in general.

Female leads can be strong even when there are supporting characters. That's how plots usually work. We're talking about movies, not one-person stage shows.

Watching Little Mermaid now. I know it’s unfair to compare the animation but the bright colorful Moana is such a joy in comparison. Plus the lively catchy songs.

The animation was lovely to look at, but other than that, I pretty much hated everything about Moana.

I’m actually kinda shocked to see all of these positive responses. The barely hidden male bashing symbolism of Moana was like a constant fire hose of spiteful feminism right to the face.

This guy nails it:

YouTube video - Jonathan Pageau: Symbolism in Moana, Replacing the Masculine

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I’m actually kinda shocked to see all of these positive responses. The barely hidden male bashing symbolism of Moana was like a constant fire hose of spiteful feminism right to the face

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Melt

Moana is great. Way better than Frozen and Frozen 2 (Elsa is a terrible queen and an even more terrible sister. I hate Elsa.)

I think I like Tangled more though. Tangled is funnier and slightly more rewatchable than Moana IMO, but Moana is sstill fantastic.