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re: Where Do You Rank Lonesome Dove?
Posted on 12/19/23 at 10:22 am to Philzilla2k
Posted on 12/19/23 at 10:22 am to Philzilla2k
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I do think I would like to read the books first,
I'm glad I read the book first. It's awesome. I think it let me appreciate the movie that much more. From the very start you know that they cast Woodrow and Gus perfectly.
Page 1 of the book, I love this quote.
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 11:01 am to GAFF
Top 5 of anything put on screen for me, easy. However, it freaked me out recently when I realized Tommy Lee Jones was in his early 40's when filming. In high school I thought those two were ancient at the time.
Posted on 12/19/23 at 11:05 am to Loup
The show was great and the book is an all time favorite novel of mine. McMurtry won the Pulitzer for the book and it was well deserved. I like all four of his books with these characters, but of course Lonesome Dove is the best.
He wrote The Last Picture Show, another great movie, and a bunch of other books. Terms of Endearment and Hud (the book had a different name).
He wrote The Last Picture Show, another great movie, and a bunch of other books. Terms of Endearment and Hud (the book had a different name).
Posted on 12/19/23 at 11:50 am to JackDempsey
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McMurtry
Also wrote Brokeback Mountain...
Posted on 12/19/23 at 12:35 pm to flvelo12
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If Duvall & Jones weren't cast, it would be unremarkable.
That's a dumb criteria. They WERE cast, so it's a remarkable movie. You could play this game for ANY great movie. Take the great actors out and it becomes unremarkable.
Posted on 12/19/23 at 12:48 pm to Sam Quint
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The biggest thing that holds Lonesome Dove back is that it was a TV movie and made with 1980s TVs in mind.
Reason why I don't hold it in high regard as others here. If Duvall & Jones weren't cast, it would be unremarkable.
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That's a dumb criteria. They WERE cast, so it's a remarkable movie. You could play this game for ANY great movie. Take the great actors out and it becomes unremarkable.
Selective reasoning on your part which ignores my opinion (& others). Not knocking LD, just not enamored with it as most.
Posted on 12/19/23 at 3:27 pm to rebelrouser
Probably the best mini-series ever made
Posted on 12/19/23 at 5:10 pm to FightinTigersDammit
It’s a top 3 all time of anything ever put on film for me.
Uva uvum vivendo varia fit
^^That quote has had profound meaning in my life.
Uva uvum vivendo varia fit
^^That quote has had profound meaning in my life.
Posted on 12/19/23 at 5:19 pm to Volt
It's a motto Volt, it just says itself
This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 8:55 am
Posted on 12/19/23 at 6:51 pm to Nodust
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The others books in the series are very dark and grim. They were written after Lonesome Dove I believe.
He was a terrific author and part of that is the way his books can be horribly dark and/or lighthearted and funny. The dude had range as an author in a big way.
I read most of his books about 5-10 years ago and it made me a different reader. Around 2018 I tried to read Tom Clancy on a flight to Frankfurt and I thought it was unreadable bubble gum after reading Mcmurtry's work.
Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:21 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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Probably the best mini-series ever made
I don't think younger generations realize what a big deal mini-series were back in the day. Roots, Thorn Birds, Shogun, V, Winds of War...that was appointment television right up there with Cosby Show and Monday Night Football.
Posted on 12/19/23 at 10:15 pm to GAFF
When I was little, the scene where the guy got attacked by water moccasins in the river REALLY bothered me 
Posted on 12/20/23 at 5:21 am to GAFF
Best western ever.
Josey Wales is a close second.
Josey Wales is a close second.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 6:17 am to GAFF
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capturing the mannerisms that Robert Duvall gave Gus.
Man, I love Robert Duvall, but he uses those mannerisms in every movie he's in. That's honestly just Duvall. He's awesome, but he's the same in all his movies. And I like all his movies. Down to the Disciple even. Even the Judge with RDJ. Not a very good movie, but I'll watch anything with Duvall.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 6:21 am to GAFF
I remember the first time I watched Lonesome Dove years ago.
My brother had seen and said it was good. I sat down at midnight one night and put it on. Sat there unmoved until like 6 in the morning.
Almost like 5 hours or however long it is still wasn't enough...
Gus at the end gets me every time.
Auuuuggguuustttuusssss.
When Call says that when Gus is dying, tears hit.
My brother had seen and said it was good. I sat down at midnight one night and put it on. Sat there unmoved until like 6 in the morning.
Almost like 5 hours or however long it is still wasn't enough...
Gus at the end gets me every time.
Auuuuggguuustttuusssss.
When Call says that when Gus is dying, tears hit.
This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 6:22 am
Posted on 12/20/23 at 6:42 am to i am dan
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but he's the same in all his movies.
I think that’s true of his later stuff but I see him in the Godfather and Apocalypse Now and it’s easy to forget that it’s the same guy that was in Lonesome Dove.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 2:19 pm to GAFF
I love Lonesome Dove. That being said (unpopular opinion), The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is my favorite Western...and in fact, my favorite movie.
Without ranking them...my favorite Westerns (movies and mini-series) would include:
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
Lonesome Dove
Silverado
The Outlaw Josey Wales
Unforgiven
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
High Noon
High Plains Drifter
True Grit (the original)
The Magnificent Seven (the original)
Tombstone
Anyone who lists any of the movies above as their favorite is ok by me.
Without ranking them...my favorite Westerns (movies and mini-series) would include:
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
Lonesome Dove
Silverado
The Outlaw Josey Wales
Unforgiven
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
High Noon
High Plains Drifter
True Grit (the original)
The Magnificent Seven (the original)
Tombstone
Anyone who lists any of the movies above as their favorite is ok by me.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 3:04 pm to i am dan
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When Call says that when Gus is dying, tears hit.
Gus dying made me tear up the first time I watched it, but the dozen or so times i've watched it since then, i find myself tearing up at parts before that because i KNOW Gus is going to die. like the last time he says "Lorrie darlin" before he leaves Nebraska and when he's talking about Deets at Deets' grave. also when Woodrow finally buries him, that part gets me too. but for some reason on all of my subsequent viewings, the actual death scene doesnt seem to evoke the same emotions it did on the first viewing.
This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 12/20/23 at 8:54 pm to GAFF
The more I watch it I find it hard to continue after the Deets scene with the baby. (No spoilers).
Since I have had kids of my own, that scene just hits me harder than GusWoodrow in the room at the end.
IMHO, LD and Tombstone just have their own place in history as GOATs regardless of which avenue they are categorized.
Sure, there are great westerns from Clint Eastwood & John Wayne, but if you were born in the 70’s, LD & Tombstone are the GOATs.
Since I have had kids of my own, that scene just hits me harder than GusWoodrow in the room at the end.
IMHO, LD and Tombstone just have their own place in history as GOATs regardless of which avenue they are categorized.
Sure, there are great westerns from Clint Eastwood & John Wayne, but if you were born in the 70’s, LD & Tombstone are the GOATs.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 8:04 am to GAFF
Robert Duval/Gus McCrae is the best actor/character pairing in history.
One of the greatest characters ever written portayed by one of the best actors ever.
One of the greatest characters ever written portayed by one of the best actors ever.
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