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Posted on 1/22/16 at 11:23 am to WaltTeevens
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His Mcrib commercial is GOAT
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love that shite
Posted on 1/22/16 at 11:33 am to Brosef Stalin
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I like his style but I would agree he's not for everyone.
This. Doesn't mean he's overrated or anything, just tough to appreciate. So is Jodoworsky, Maddin, Lynch, Jarmusch, etc.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 11:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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sometimes that can work or fits in my desires. often it doesn't. usually i talk myself into it and then can't finish the movie
If he did a horror movie it would work well.
I really liked Thin Red Line and A New World.
I really loved Badlands.
Days of Heaven, to me, wasn't as good as those mentioned. I'd put it on the same level as Tree of Life.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 1:09 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
That guy was so overly pretentious....I went and saw " The Tree of Life"....holy shite what a terrible smokeshow of pretentiousness. It was 60% screensaver graphics with music in the background.....watching planet earth gives you the same effect.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 1:20 pm to tiggerthetooth
Well, as has been said, he's not for everyone. 
And there are a lot of well respected filmmakers who do not employ traditional structure or narrative.
And there are a lot of well respected filmmakers who do not employ traditional structure or narrative.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 1:24 pm to tiggerthetooth
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That guy was so overly pretentious....I went and saw " The Tree of Life"....holy shite what a terrible smokeshow of pretentiousness. It was 60% screensaver graphics with music in the background.....watching planet earth gives you the same effect.
Honestly what the hell did you expect? The movie requires thinking. There are some movies you go to to turn your brain off and get entertained, and Malick doesn't make those films.
The man was making a film that analyzes some of the biggest questions that are out there, there's no way it doesn't come off as pretentious. I understand people like different types of movies but just writing it off as screensaver graphics shows you didn't give it the time of day, or you just aren't able to think critically about a film.
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 1:24 pm to WaltTeevens
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His Mcrib commercial is GOAT
Never seen that, was pretty awesome.
Would have been better though, if the guy didn't advertise McRib in his title and it was a total surprise at the end.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 1:58 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Not that there aren't valid critiques against some films, but....
Let's not take Brody's word. He's angry, rightfully so, but yeah, not a good source for an opinion.
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Yeah, I've heard that before and that he cut out Adrian Brody as the lead in The Thin Red Line despite shooting hours and hours of film with him...and the rep is Malick shoots tons of film and then makes his movies in the editing room and doesn't bother telling the actors. As Brody said about Malick: "You know the expression, don't believe the hype?, well you shouldn't."
Let's not take Brody's word. He's angry, rightfully so, but yeah, not a good source for an opinion.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 2:28 pm to Freauxzen
We don't have to take Brody's word. It's well established that Malick made Thin Red Line in the editing room. He spent 13 months in post-production! Billy Bob Thornton, Martin Sheen, Gary Oldman, Bill Pullman, Lukas Haas, Viggo Mortensen, and Mickey Rourke were all also cut out. John Travolta and George Clooney were reduced to cameos. He sat in there with a Green Day CD blasting and any dialogue he could hear over the music he excised from the film and replaced with voice-over. The initial voice-over was actually all Billy Bob Thornton, so what eventually came out was an entirely different voice-over even!
"It seems to me that Terry does so much of his work in the editing room" - production designer Jack Fisk, commentary track on the Criterion DVD
"It seems to me that Terry does so much of his work in the editing room" - production designer Jack Fisk, commentary track on the Criterion DVD
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 2:53 pm to Cooter Davenport
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We don't have to take Brody's word. It's well established that Malick made Thin Red Line in the editing room. He spent 13 months in post-production! Billy Bob Thornton, Martin Sheen, Gary Oldman, Bill Pullman, Lukas Haas, Viggo Mortensen, and Mickey Rourke were all also cut out. John Travolta and George Clooney were reduced to cameos. He sat in there with a Green Day CD blasting and any dialogue he could hear over the music he excised from the film and replaced with voice-over. The initial voice-over was actually all Billy Bob Thornton, so what eventually came out was an entirely different voice-over even!
"It seems to me that Terry does so much of his work in the editing room" - production designer Jack Fisk, commentary track on the Criterion DVD
And there's nothing wrong with creating a movie in the editing. Nothing. But that does not equal..
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You know the expression, don't believe the hype?, well you shouldn't.
Which is a slight against Malick's talent from someone with an axe to grind.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:32 pm to Freauxzen
I'm not his biggest fan, but for people to posit that Malick isn't a good director is just ridiculous; there are very few who can shoot a film better. For him and many other celebrated filmmakers, he'd rather jump out of a window than have to worry about whether the plot or narrative is gelling with the audience. Most of his films don't exist solely for entertainment value - they're a meditation - his challenge is that you can stay with it and maybe you find some kind of discovery within yourself, or you clock out because the plot, or lack thereof, leaves you feeling alienated. I don't watch a movie like Mulholland Dr. or Tarkovsky's The Mirror for the tantalizing storylines - they're experiences, and they're experiences worth having.
Just because a film doesn't contain an orthodox storyline doesn't make it shite, meaning is there - you have to put the work in. If anything, people should celebrate that directors like Malick are even allowed to be in the industry.
Just because a film doesn't contain an orthodox storyline doesn't make it shite, meaning is there - you have to put the work in. If anything, people should celebrate that directors like Malick are even allowed to be in the industry.
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:55 pm to JombieZombie
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I'm not his biggest fan, but for people to posit that Malick isn't a good director is just ridiculous; there are very few who can shoot a film better. For him and many other celebrated filmmakers, he'd rather jump out of a window than have to worry about whether the plot or narrative is gelling with the audience. Most of his films don't exist solely for entertainment value - they're a meditation - his challenge is that you can stay with it and maybe you find some kind of discovery within yourself, or you clock out because the plot, or lack thereof, leaves you feeling alienated. I don't watch a movie like Mulholland Dr. or Tarkovsky's The Mirror for the tantalizing storylines - they're experiences, and they're experiences worth having.
Just because a film doesn't contain an orthodox storyline doesn't make it shite, meaning is there - you have to put the work in. If anything, people should celebrate that directors like Malick are even allowed to be in the industry.
Well said.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 3:57 pm to JombieZombie
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Just because a film doesn't contain an orthodox storyline doesn't make it shite, meaning is there - you have to put the work in
I hate this argument. It's basically saying that people who don't like him are too stupid to get him. What a garbage argument. It belittles my opinion of Mallick's work for purely inane, insubstantial reasons.
Perhaps I just have a different opinion than you on what a director should be. To me, a director is, first and foremost, a storyteller. If you can't tell a compelling story in a compelling way, you've failed at tenet one of being a director.
Even the "artists" tell compelling stories. Lynch is bonkers, but he tells stories. Hell, even Bergman told stories. In the more modern cinema, Wending-Refn tells stories, though it's clear he has a pre-disposition to image and atmosphere.
Mallick jerks off on film. My opinion.
If you look at the greatest directors of all time, all of them are master storytellers: Kubrick, Welles, Kurosawa, Hitchcock, Ford. Keep going. They use the story to determine the image. Mallick uses the image to glean a story out of it and it all too often fails.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 4:02 pm to JombieZombie
I didn't see The Thin Red Line until maybe a couple of years ago. I also haven't seen most of his catalog. I though TRL was an interesting take on the WWII and anti war genre. I liked it. I thought the poetic voice overs were pretty and thought provoking. The fight scenes were intense. I've seen that movie get shite on a ton around here for being pretentious. It kind of made me wonder if I'm pretentious.
I've seen a lot of Malick's stuff be criticized around here for the same reasons, so I think that's probably a sign that his stuff might be up my alley.
I've seen a lot of Malick's stuff be criticized around here for the same reasons, so I think that's probably a sign that his stuff might be up my alley.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 4:04 pm to LoveThatMoney
Malick sees movies as art, not just a storytelling medium. He's trying to evoke certain emotions through imagery. Its like Jackson Pollack or any of the modern artists that paint random shapes or colors.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 4:05 pm to Peazey
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I've seen a lot of Malick's stuff be criticized around here for the same reasons, so I think that's probably a sign that his stuff might be up my alley.
I actually did a 180 on Malick. Up until about 4-5 years ago I had seen Red Line and New World and really disliked him.I thought he was vastly overrated, but still talented for pure style alone. I saw Tree of Life, Days of Heaves, Badlands, and To the Wonder and completely changed my tune.
I fully admit I couldn't look past his style originally, long, boring, brooding. ToL made complete sense to me. To each his own.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 4:11 pm to Freauxzen
His problem is he's just been sniffing more and more of his own farts, and his "films" have gotten increasingly self-masturbatory: basically no dialogue or story or semblance of any cohesion whatsoever. Just long shots of nothing.
I like art-house cinema, but I just do not like Malick. I think he should be someone's Cinematographer. As a Director, I think he has become a failure.
I like art-house cinema, but I just do not like Malick. I think he should be someone's Cinematographer. As a Director, I think he has become a failure.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 4:11 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Malick sees movies as art, not just a storytelling medium. He's trying to evoke certain emotions through imagery. Its like Jackson Pollack or any of the modern artists that paint random shapes or colors
First, storytelling is art. Ask Joyce.
Second, that's why I said he belongs in a museum showing short films. 2 hours of evoking emotion through imagery rather than telling a story is inherently wearisome.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 4:15 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Yeah, full on self-parody at this point.
That said, they are beautiful to watch and listen to. If you can accept that, it's usually worth a view if you can get past the ridiculous musings.
That said, they are beautiful to watch and listen to. If you can accept that, it's usually worth a view if you can get past the ridiculous musings.
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