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What did the angry mob WANT to see in season 8?
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:29 pm
Jon on the throne, because Dani was going to be fricking fine with it?
Dani on the throne, suddenly smart at ruling and not inept and SJW as she was in Qarth, Astapour, and everywhere else?
Jon banging his aunt in a complete character reversal?
Cersei get a big cheesy comic book death scene?
The night king kill everyone and no one is left?
Every major (not minor) suggestion I have seen from the complainers results in marked changes from character arcs or behavior so they can get a storybook ending to a show that has been solidly grounded in medieval style political intrigue. Every other war that Martin based his books off of in Medieval europe ended in a pointless return to status quo with some minor change to borders or ownership that wasn't even the point of the original fight (See: election of a king, the north independent).
Did you get the impression this would be a satisfying, storybook ending when you watched the last few seasons?
Dani on the throne, suddenly smart at ruling and not inept and SJW as she was in Qarth, Astapour, and everywhere else?
Jon banging his aunt in a complete character reversal?
Cersei get a big cheesy comic book death scene?
The night king kill everyone and no one is left?
Every major (not minor) suggestion I have seen from the complainers results in marked changes from character arcs or behavior so they can get a storybook ending to a show that has been solidly grounded in medieval style political intrigue. Every other war that Martin based his books off of in Medieval europe ended in a pointless return to status quo with some minor change to borders or ownership that wasn't even the point of the original fight (See: election of a king, the north independent).
Did you get the impression this would be a satisfying, storybook ending when you watched the last few seasons?
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:30 pm to cokebottleag
Not have Dany go from saving everyone to killing everyone in a span of 1.5 episodes.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:31 pm to cokebottleag
TFW you feel it necessary to white knight for a pay cable show
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:32 pm to cokebottleag
quote:
Jon on the throne, because Dani was going to be fricking fine with it?
Dani on the throne, suddenly smart at ruling and not inept and SJW as she was in Qarth, Astapour, and everywhere else?
Jon banging his aunt in a complete character reversal?
Cersei get a big cheesy comic book death scene?
The night king kill everyone and no one is left?
i've been saying this for literally years about GOT
it's not the outcomes; it's the process
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:32 pm to cokebottleag
quote:
What did the angry mob WANT to see in season
Decent writing without gaping holes and complete character abandonment
Where they landed isn't the problem. How they got there is the problem
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:33 pm to RB10
quote:
Not have Dany go from saving everyone to killing everyone in a span of 1.5 episodes.
Tyrion does an exposition of her long list of murders of either defenseless or surrendered persons throughout the show. This is just the first time they showed it from the perspective of the people she was 'clensing'.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:33 pm to cokebottleag
The outcome is not the issue. The sorry story line and clear decline in the quality of the show is the issue. Compare the first couple of seasons to the last one. There is no comparison. Hardly even the same show. It just got real sloppy at the end. Just my opinion.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:33 pm to cokebottleag
Jon kills NK
Jon becomes king and marries Dany living happily ever after
Revealed that Bran is really the NK
Arya kills Cersei
Hound kills Mountain but mortally wounded - Arya grants mercy
The fans wanted fan service.
It’s like they forget they were watching Game of Thrones, written specifically to oppose this
Jon becomes king and marries Dany living happily ever after
Revealed that Bran is really the NK
Arya kills Cersei
Hound kills Mountain but mortally wounded - Arya grants mercy
The fans wanted fan service.
It’s like they forget they were watching Game of Thrones, written specifically to oppose this
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:34 pm to Damone
quote:
TFW you feel it necessary to white knight for a pay cable show
I'm legit curious, despite the tenor of my OP.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:34 pm to cokebottleag
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This is just the first time they showed it from the perspective of the people she was 'clensing'.
she murdered a million innocent civilians, dude
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
it's not the outcomes; it's the process
I can agree with this
My main contention is the blame fails FIRSTLY on GRRM
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:35 pm to cokebottleag
quote:
What did the angry mob WANT to see in season 8?
set up episodes for seasons 9 and 10
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:36 pm to theunknownknight
let me also add that season 8 literally wasted 1/3 of its episodes on filler episodes meant to play up the NK only to have that have no payoff
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:36 pm to cokebottleag
quote:
Tyrion does an exposition of her long list of murders of either defenseless or surrendered persons throughout the show. This is just the first time they showed it from the perspective of the people she was 'clensing'.
I've already been through this and I'm not doing it again. A turn that large, in a show dedicated to character arcs, deserves screen time and to be fleshed out.
We didn't get that.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:37 pm to cokebottleag
I was hoping the night king kill everyone
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:37 pm to cokebottleag
10 episodes.
I wanted to see Dany actually spend some time on the Iron Throne and do something in that capacity. Instead, she just touched it for a second.
I wanted to see Dany actually spend some time on the Iron Throne and do something in that capacity. Instead, she just touched it for a second.
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:40 pm to cokebottleag
quote:
Did you get the impression this would be a satisfying, storybook ending when you watched the last few seasons?
Brans king
Sansas queen of the north
Arya is traveling the world
Tyrion is hand of the king and back with Bronn drinking and telling jokes
Sam is grand Maester
Jon is beyond the wall where he is most happiest
How the frick is that not a contrived storybook ending?
You don’t need a happy ending for it to be satisfying. The way they went about it was shite.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:so probably the same or similar plot points and outcomes in twice the amount of episodes and I think most people would have been fine with it.
she murdered a million innocent civilians, dude
It felt rushed but I ain’t mad. I liked season 8 just fine.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:40 pm to cokebottleag
The show could have come to a conclusion very close to what was done if they would have told the tale better. For example, Dany goes through a lot of bad things that would have killed mere mortals and became this "Savior" only to do a Pro-Wrestling heel-turn in one episode and after all of the shite she went through to get a dagger in the gut as a death?...From the very first season.."Winter is Coming" is what was rammed down our throats and the Knight King in one (poorly lit) battle end the entire war...Seriously?
It was the extremely poor character and story development that killed this season
It was the extremely poor character and story development that killed this season
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
I’ll say this, maybe I’ll break it down later
I think GRRM was aiming to hoodwink everyone
A song of ice and fire wasn’t just about Jon and Dany
It was about the NK and Dany
Everyone was focused on the ICE apocalypse they missed the FIRE Armageddon under their noses.
Everyone sings and then the ICE is soundly defeated. Everyone sings in celebration as the FIRE ignites.
The story is how those caught in the middle react. It’s ultimately a treatise against extremism and tropism.
I think GRRM was aiming to hoodwink everyone
A song of ice and fire wasn’t just about Jon and Dany
It was about the NK and Dany
Everyone was focused on the ICE apocalypse they missed the FIRE Armageddon under their noses.
Everyone sings and then the ICE is soundly defeated. Everyone sings in celebration as the FIRE ignites.
The story is how those caught in the middle react. It’s ultimately a treatise against extremism and tropism.
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 1:41 pm
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