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re: What did Darth Vader actually accomplish?

Posted on 12/18/16 at 11:46 pm to
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 11:46 pm to
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 4:54 am to
Vader/Anakin was always a pussy at heart. At least if you accept the prequels as cannon.

But he did have a big part in almost wiping out the Jedis. And the Sith as well. (His 5 minute change of heart did not nearly redeem him for all the kids and others he killed though, IMO).
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 5:52 am to
Isn't Darth Vader the main villain the Star Wars. What kind of question is this
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:16 am to
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Isn't Darth Vader the main villain the Star Wars. What kind of question is this
Actually, good question.

Qui Gon seemed to think he was going to be some sort of saviour and messiah through the Force, and was bound and determined to train him due to "the prophecy". Well, he misread that shite.

He wiped out the Jedi Order, "a force for good for over a thousand years", and was intrumental in destabilizing a previously strong Republic. Palpatine needed him to eliminate the Jedi and remove democracy from the equation. Due to him, billions died.

He then killed the Emperor, but that didn't eliminate the Dark Side users, as Snoke and Ren have surfaced less than a full generation later; this time without an organized Light Side group to oppose them.

He seems to be an instrument of chaos, nothing more to be remembered for.
Posted by Das Jackal
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:02 am to
He imposed the emperor's will and wiped out the Jedi. And he was also one of the scariest mf'ers in the galaxy.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:04 am to
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He told Vader to stop force choking the guy in a new hope and Vader listened
That was a forceful order.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:11 am to
Posted by 19
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 11:41 am to
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Qui Gon seemed to think he was going to be some sort of saviour and messiah through the Force, and was bound and determined to train him due to "the prophecy". Well, he misread that shite.


Even though Yoda questioned the misreading, I don't think Qui Gon did, he just had no idea the path it would take for Anakin to do so.

But yeah, in one stroke he saved the Republic and eliminated the Galactic Empire. I'd call that a savior if I were a Rebel.
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 12:34 pm to
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Qui Gon seemed to think he was going to be some sort of saviour and messiah through the Force, and was bound and determined to train him due to "the prophecy". Well, he misread that shite. 


No one else has had as much of an impact on both sides as much as Vader has. Even now the products of his bloodline continue to impact.

It's not that he misread, probably just could not comprehend.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 12:46 pm to
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Tarkin was in command but Vader was the muscle. The emperor knows that Vader is too unstable so he prefers the leadership skills of Tarkin.

Probably about right.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 12:49 pm to
Brought balance to the force (in both directions). Raised Empire awareness of asthmatics.
Posted by Mahootney
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 1:13 pm to
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But yeah, in one stroke he saved the Republic and eliminated the Galactic Empire. I'd call that a savior if I were a Rebel.
Also created the empire by killing Mace Windu instead of letting Palpatine get killed.
Posted by MasonTiger
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 1:17 pm to
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After 7 films now, what is his actual legacy?
Posted by south bama tiger
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 1:36 pm to
Who's the best pilot in the galaxy? Solo, Luke Skywalker, or Vader/Anakin Skywalker?

Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 1:38 pm to
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Qui Gon seemed to think he was going to be some sort of saviour and messiah through the Force, and was bound and determined to train him due to "the prophecy". Well, he misread that shite


Did he misread it or did the rest of the Jedi? The Clone Wars makes me think Qui Gon had an idea all along of what was to come.

Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 1:40 pm to
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Who's the best pilot in the galaxy?


quote:

Vader/Anakin Skywalker


Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 1:40 pm to
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Who's the best pilot in the galaxy? Solo, Luke Skywalker, or Vader/Anakin Skywalker? 


Solo

Has no help in Force, drives a POS and out-maneuvers smaller & more efficient vehicles with trained pilots.

Can do it in an asteroid belt.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 1:46 pm to
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drives a POS


The same POS that is the fastest ship in the Galaxy? Looks can be deceiving

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out-maneuvers smaller & more efficient vehicles with trained pilots.


I think it is painfully obvious that Imperial troopers are pretty poorly trained. I mean they can't even shoot.

Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 1:51 pm to
Star Wars is essentially a story about Anakin Skywalker.

How can you overthink this? The whole story is him.
Posted by SEClint
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 2:02 pm to
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I think it is painfully obvious that Imperial troopers are pretty poorly trained. I mean they can't even shoot. 


That's why they are storm troopers. I dont know, seems that to be such a threat in the galaxy, there has to be some competence somewhere.
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