re: Westworld S01E05 - "Contrapasso" Thread

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Dolores killed the 4 or 5 soldiers who had William pinned down.

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Oh. Different scene. Yep. She went off after he told her to run. That was awesome. If she hadn't, it's not like they could have killed William. But Dolores is obviously there to move that storyline along. She jumped in with the right words during the original negotiation with Lawrence, too.

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Anybody wanna talk about the hosts kicking the shite out of William''s brother in law? William gets hit a few times too. What would have happened if Dolaras wasn't there to shoot those confederate soldiers? They had William pinned up against the wall. What's gonna happen to bro in law now that he's kidnapped and William isn't coming back for him? He's gonna spend his expensive vacation time locked up in jail as a prisoner? Or will someone from the park come let him out and basically tell him to go back to the beginner levels?
I'm assuming the further you advance from Sweetwater the tougher the "game" gets and the more physical harm a host can do to you??? Would those Confederate soldiers rough up a woman guest just as bad? Or could it be that the hosts in this particular city are already broken (gone rouge off script)? It didn't seem like they acted with guests very often.

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Seems pretty clear that there are a lot of jailbreaks. The park would likely script a 'jailbreak' as they mention at one point something about a guest getting thrown in jail and that 'they would have a maid slip him a key' or something like that. Enough punishment to make it seem real, but they don't want a guest to pay $40,000 a day to sit in the klink.

But the progress on their 'quest' would be completely lost. In William's case, the sequence with the train and the bodies full of explosives would have departed to parts unknown, leaving him behind to start over with some other storyline.

As a comment, it's clear this park is at least 200 miles in diameter. If we're only talking a few miles to reach the outer edges, there would be no where to hide these high level storylines, and stumbling on something you weren't supposed to would be common. A day on horseback could get you 20 miles or more, depending on terrain. We've seen by my count, 3 towns.

- Sweetwater (low level start)
- The mexican pueblo, Lawrence's hometown (low-midrange town)
- Pariah (high level town)

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i think this is going to be a recurring issue just b/c i don't think the writers really planned it out well (like with the re-purposing aspect of the hosts).

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The re-purposing of the hosts seems pretty well thought out to me. The hosts can't be cheap to build, or they would obviously be just remade every time they died.

I do think the park has to be on another planet for this to all by possible. What convinced me was Ford's confident handling of the rattlesnake a while back. How would he have known the snake was a robot if he couldn't be sure that *any* snake he encountered was a robot?

It would have to be in our solar system as well, as the Orion's belt discussion would have been moot if the planet was somewhere else. There is really only one world that could be capable of this kind of terraforming: Mars. That has to be where this is set.

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Now there is a pictograph of a man in the middle of the maze.

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There has always been a man in the middle of the maze, that isn't new.

Unless you're meaning something like "now, look here" as to remind us that there is a man there rather than "now this is new."

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physically moving/fixing them fast enough is just absurd, given there are hundreds of guests around at all times

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They must have thousands of employees

the one question I have is, how do the visitors know who the other visitors are and what keeps them from harming each other?

I hope this episode finally puts to rest all of the multiple timelines/ William = MIB theories.

I thoroughly enjoyed hypothesizing this theorem with everyone. Now we must simply admit it is not a theory after this episode after the Lawrence reveal.
It is now fact.


ETA Just fricking with you.

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I thoroughly enjoyed hypothesizing this theorem with everyone. Now we must simply admit it is not a theory after this episode after the Lawrence reveal.
It is now fact.

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Something that hasn't gotten much discussion from this episode is the laser data uplink that was was found in the lumberjack's arm.

What data is being collected? Who is collecting this data and for what purpose?

Does that indicate there is some corporate espionage going on? Perhaps the "board" collecting data on guests? An outside entity collecting data on guests?