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re: We Need to Talk About Cosby
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:53 pm to Havoc
Posted on 2/15/22 at 10:53 pm to Havoc
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the main accuser from 2004 apparently continued to spend time with Cos and even introduced him to her parents, after the sexual assault.
She also called him on Valentine's Day. How many women call their alleged rapists on Valentine's Day?
I think the truth is they were both sleazy people using each other. She wanted to use Cosby to get her a job at Temple and Cosby saw someone willing to sleep with him to get it.
This post was edited on 2/15/22 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 2/16/22 at 12:05 am to BK Lounge
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Another kind of strange thing that was talked about in the documentary was the fact that Cosby had creative control over absolutely everything on that show.. and that he chose to make the character Dr Heathcliff Huxtable an OB/GYN who examines his patients in the basement of his house where his office is located…. I was thinking that might be kind of a reach, but again, in terms of what we know now, it does make you wonder why he didnt make him a dentist, or just a regular pediatrician or something .
I thought it was weird for him to be a gyno and have the office in his basement even before everything came out about him. It just seems wrong to be running a medical practice out of a house when you aren't some 1950s country doctor.
Once you add the context of what he was doing to women IRL though?? yeeesh.
This post was edited on 2/16/22 at 12:06 am
Posted on 2/16/22 at 12:11 am to BabyTac
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Call me naive, but I can’t imagine a man that can play the role Bill Cosby did for so long, and have such an impact on people be so evil. Very hard to believe.
One of the biggest scandals in the last 20 years in the UK happened when a beloved TV host Jimmy Savile was outed after decades of abusing kids.
LINK
When you have money and fervent public adoration it's a hell of a lot easier to get away w/being a POS.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 1:30 am to Dr RC
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It just seems wrong to be running a medical practice out of a house when you aren't some 1950s country doctor.
Jason Seaver ran his psychiatry practice out of his home on Growing Pains.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 4:51 am to TheFolker
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Jason Seaver ran his psychiatry practice out of his home on Growing Pains.
The creators of the shows likely did that to explain why the dads were always around the house in the middle of the day.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:17 am to Havoc
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Man, reading through all of it or trying to it’s hard to say because there’s so many twists and turns.
You should watch the actual documentary .. There are new episodes still coming out every week on Showtime, not sure for how much longer.. but if you dont have Showtime then im guessing it’l be available on one of the streaming services soon .
Posted on 2/16/22 at 10:03 am to BK Lounge
In a Cracked show, "After Hours", they did an episode where they basically "ruined sitcoms with math" and proved that Cosby's character stalked his wife while she was in grade school and manipulated her into picking a specific college.
Episode starting at the Cosby show
Timeline:
1987 - Cliff turns 50
1989 - Claire turns 46 (Cliff is 52)
1991 - 27th anniversary together
Leads to:
Married in 1964 - Claire is 21
Revealed in season 1 - Cliff says the reason he went to his particular college because he knew Claire wanted to go there.
Cliff goes to college in 1955
Why Claire is 12 years old
And they were confirmed to be "together" when she was 15 while he was 21 (because he had finals and couldn't go with her to prom).
Episode starting at the Cosby show
Timeline:
1987 - Cliff turns 50
1989 - Claire turns 46 (Cliff is 52)
1991 - 27th anniversary together
Leads to:
Married in 1964 - Claire is 21
Revealed in season 1 - Cliff says the reason he went to his particular college because he knew Claire wanted to go there.
Cliff goes to college in 1955
Why Claire is 12 years old
And they were confirmed to be "together" when she was 15 while he was 21 (because he had finals and couldn't go with her to prom).
Posted on 2/16/22 at 10:43 am to jatilen
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Cosby saw someone willing to sleep with him to get it.
She is a lesbian and they never slept together! There goes your wrong misguided theory.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:10 pm to BK Lounge
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You should watch the actual documentary
Is it objective at all or is it “Cosby did it all and we’re gonna tell you how”?
Posted on 2/16/22 at 11:01 pm to skrayper
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And they were confirmed to be "together" when she was 15 while he was 21 (because he had finals and couldn't go with her to prom).
Posted on 2/17/22 at 7:29 am to BurningHeart
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Example?
Dude was a gynecologist who worked out of his basement
Posted on 2/17/22 at 12:40 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Sheesh. That didn't "go over the head" of audiences - it sort of just speaks to how different shite was back then when middle America didn't seem to mind people being gently roofied.
I don't remember the episode, but I can tell you how it was interpreted. First off, Spanish Fly was this mythical thing that was always talked about in the movies, but nobody really thought was real. Also, it was not thought as something that would take away any of their senses. Not something that would knock them out. That's why jokes about it were funny. It seemed harmless because it didn't seem like it hurt anyone.
Now those women...man, in the 80's those women he raped didn't stand a chance. They were damned if you do, damned if you don't. If they had spoken up them, Cosby was quite powerful and it would have been his word against theirs. They stood no chance whatsoever.
Posted on 2/17/22 at 12:42 pm to Twenty 49
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Jason Seaver ran his psychiatry practice out of his home on Growing Pains.
The creators of the shows likely did that to explain why the dads were always around the house in the middle of the day.
Exactly. Back then, nobody thought twice about how "real" a sitcom was. You just watched and accepted.
Posted on 2/17/22 at 12:46 pm to skrayper
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And they were confirmed to be "together" when she was 15 while he was 21 (because he had finals and couldn't go with her to prom).
I hate saying this because it is so cringy now, but that stuff was not uncommon at all then. One of my BFF's in high school took her 25 year old boyfriend to prom. Everybody dated older guys in high school. I was 16 and my boyfriend (later husband) was 20. It was very common. I graduated from HS in 1979.
Posted on 2/17/22 at 4:56 pm to LaLadyinTx
I watched it yesterday and today and it was okay...I didn't realize how BIG Cosby was to the Black Community because honestly...I never liked him or thought he was funny. And I have NEVER seen one episode of The Cosby Show.
I was working in Norristown, PA at the local rape crisis center (Victim Services Center of Montgomery County) back in 2005 when the original case broke.
If you are interested in a good book that is an accurate depiction of this story...check out the book: Chasing Cosby.
I was working in Norristown, PA at the local rape crisis center (Victim Services Center of Montgomery County) back in 2005 when the original case broke.
If you are interested in a good book that is an accurate depiction of this story...check out the book: Chasing Cosby.
Posted on 2/17/22 at 6:20 pm to Havoc
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To be objective, some people enjoy taking drugs and then having sex.
There’s not a lot of problems when two or ten or twenty people take drugs and enjoy having sex.
There’s a pretty significant problem when one person takes drugs and the other enjoys having sex.
Posted on 2/17/22 at 11:24 pm to Hopeful Doc
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There’s not a lot of problems when two or ten or twenty people take drugs and enjoy having sex.
There’s a pretty significant problem when one person takes drugs and the other enjoys having sex.
Sure. The problem is once a person injects themselves into a he said-she said situation, it’s so much harder to claim rape, especially when post-“rape” conduct is so contradictory and takes decades to come to light.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 8:40 pm to Havoc
For those w/Showtime, next ep getting ready to start in a few minutes .
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:37 pm to BK Lounge
When Hannibal Burress called him out, black opinions turnt on Cosby. It’s a fascinating sociological analysis.
When a black icon loses black culture apologists like Jamele Hill, you know they in trouble.
When a black icon loses black culture apologists like Jamele Hill, you know they in trouble.
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