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re: Was Michael B. Jordan truly the best actor?
Posted on 3/16/26 at 9:20 pm to TFTC
Posted on 3/16/26 at 9:20 pm to TFTC
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I think any one of the nominated could have won, so what's the big deal?
Kind of where I am. Watched Sinners and One Battle after Another. I haven’t seen any of the others yet to judge against, but I’m guessing nobody delivered a Daniel Day Lewis in My Left Foot type performance.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 9:22 pm to baybeefeetz
Jordan is a terrible actor. Genuinly terrible. Don't know how he won.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 8:58 am to baybeefeetz
I didn’t think the movie was that great but thought he did a very good job of making the twins feel like two very distinct characters
I was impressed
I was impressed
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:04 am to lsupride87
quote:My take was that Sinners was surprisingly good. I can see voters being impressed with this being M.B. Jordan's breakout role.
I didn’t think the movie was that great but thought he did a very good job of making the twins feel like two very distinct characters
One Battle After Another felt like a real, big, old school film.
Marty Supreme seemed original and entertaining.
Bugonia was intense, Frankenstein was okay, but I didn't see those or the rest winning best picture.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:24 am to dallastiger55
It had nothing to do with Tourette’s guy.
“Sinners” just had a lot of momentum and Oscar buzz before the BAFTAs
“Sinners” just had a lot of momentum and Oscar buzz before the BAFTAs
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:30 am to baybeefeetz
quote:
Was Michael B. Jordan truly the best actor?
No
Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:10 am to baybeefeetz
He’s a good TV actor. Was good as Wallace in The Wire, and was good on FNL. I don’t see him as a leading man movie star though. I don’t think he has much charisma or range. I don’t think he’s funny.
Male Actors who can’t do comedy automatically are put down a few rungs in my book.
Male Actors who can’t do comedy automatically are put down a few rungs in my book.
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 10:30 am
Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:32 am to JoeyP239
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He’s a good TV actor. Was good as Wallace in The Wire, and was good on FNL. I don’t see him as a leading man movie star though. I don’t think he has much charisma or range. I don’t think he’s funny.
Male Actors who can’t do comedy automatically are put down a few rungs in my book.
Movies are working out well for him.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:45 am to 3nOut
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I’m very suspect of the win.
They stopped awarding cinematic excellence years ago. Now it's just diversity/intersectionality bingo.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 12:05 pm to VoxDawg
quote:Do they get together ahead of time and choose which minority actors will win and which will lose? How does this work?
They stopped awarding cinematic excellence years ago. Now it's just diversity/intersectionality bingo.
Asking for Delroy Lindo.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 12:53 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Why some non-white actors are lauded and others aren't may be a more obscure part of how the sausage is made, but they've made no bones about seeking to overrepresent minorities.
Academy Awards Diversity and Inclusion Standards
Academy Awards Diversity and Inclusion Standards
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Representation and Inclusion Standards
The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences representation and inclusion standards for Oscars® eligibility in the Best Picture category are designed to encourage equitable representation on and off screen to better reflect the diverse global population.
Submitting a confidential Academy Inclusion Standards form (RAISE) and meeting TWO out of FOUR of the standards will be required for the film to be eligible for Best Picture consideration. In addition, the film must complete the Best Picture Expanded Theatrical Run criteria to qualify.
STANDARD A: ON-SCREEN REPRESENTATION, THEMES AND NARRATIVES
A film can achieve this standard by meeting the criteria in at least ONE of the following areas:
A1. Lead or significant supporting actors from underrepresented racial or ethnic groups
At least one of the lead actors or significant supporting actors submitted for Oscar consideration is from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group in a specific country or territory of production.
This may include:
• African American / Black / African and/or Caribbean descent
• East Asian (including Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and Mongolian)
• Hispanic or Latina/e/o/x
• Indigenous Peoples (including Native American / Alaskan Native)
• Middle Eastern / North African
• Pacific Islander
• South Asian (including Bangladeshi, Bhutanese, Indian, Nepali, Pakistani, and Sri Lankan)
• Southeast Asian (including Burmese, Cambodian, Filipino, Hmong, Indonesian, Laotian, Malaysian, Mien, Singaporean, Thai, and Vietnamese)
A2. General ensemble cast
At least 30% of all actors not submitted for Oscar consideration are from at least two underrepresented groups which may include:
• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing
A3. Main storyline/subject matter
The main storyline(s), theme or narrative of the film is centered on an underrepresented group(s).
• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing
STANDARD B: CREATIVE LEADERSHIP AND PROJECT TEAM
A film can achieve this standard by meeting the criteria in at least ONE of the following areas:
B1. Creative leadership and department heads
At least two of the following creative leadership positions and department heads—Casting Director, Cinematographer, Composer, Costume Designer, Director, Editor, Hairstylist, Makeup Artist, Producer, Production Designer, Set Decorator, Sound, VFX Supervisor, Writer—are from an underrepresented group and at least one of those positions must belong to someone from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.
Underrepresented groups may include:
• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing
Underrepresented racial or ethnic groups may include:
• African American / Black / African and/or Caribbean descent
• East Asian (including Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and Mongolian)
• Hispanic or Latina/e/o/x
• Indigenous Peoples (including Native American / Alaskan Native)
• Middle Eastern / North African
• Pacific Islander
• South Asian (including Bangladeshi, Bhutanese, Indian, Nepali, Pakistani, and Sri Lankan)
• Southeast Asian (including Burmese, Cambodian, Filipino, Hmong, Indonesian, Laotian, Malaysian, Mien, Singaporean, Thai, and Vietnamese)
B2. Other key roles
At least six (6) other crew/team and technical positions (excluding Production Assistants) are from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group. These positions include but are not limited to First AD, Gaffer, Script Supervisor, etc.
B3. Overall crew composition
At least 30% of the film’s crew is from at least two underrepresented groups, which may include:
• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing
STANDARD C: INDUSTRY ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITIES
A film can achieve this standard by meeting the criteria in at least ONE of the following areas:
C1. Paid apprenticeship and internship opportunities
The film’s distribution or financing company has paid apprenticeships or internships that are from the following underrepresented groups and satisfy the criteria below:
• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing
The major studios/distributors are required to have substantive, ongoing paid apprenticeships/internships inclusive of underrepresented groups (must also include racial or ethnic groups) in most of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.
The mini-major or independent studios/distributors must have a minimum of two apprentices/interns from the above underrepresented groups (at least one from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group) in at least one of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.
C2. Training opportunities and skills development (crew)
The film’s production, distribution and/or financing company offers training and/or work opportunities for below-the-line skill development to people from the following underrepresented groups:
• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing
STANDARD D: AUDIENCE DEVELOPMENT
To achieve Standard D, the film must meet the criterion below:
D1. Representation in development, marketing, publicity, and distribution
The studio and/or film company has multiple (more than one) in-house senior executives or hired consultants belonging to at least two underrepresented groups on their creative and development, marketing, publicity, and/or distribution teams. At least one individual must belong to an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.
Underrepresented groups may include:
• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing
Underrepresented racial or ethnic groups may include:
• African American / Black / African and/or Caribbean descent
• East Asian (including Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and Mongolian)
• Hispanic or Latina/e/o/x
• Indigenous Peoples (including Native American / Alaskan Native)
• Middle Eastern / North African
• Pacific Islander
• South Asian (including Bangladeshi, Bhutanese, Indian, Nepali, Pakistani, and Sri Lankan)
• Southeast Asian (including Burmese, Cambodian, Filipino, Hmong, Indonesian, Laotian, Malaysian, Mien, Singaporean, Thai, and Vietnamese)
All categories other than Best Picture will be held to their current eligibility requirements. Films in the specialty feature categories (Animated Feature Film, Documentary Feature, International Feature Film) submitted for Best Picture/General Entry consideration will be prompted to participate in the Representation and Inclusion Standards process.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 1:13 pm to 3nOut
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I thought Black Panther was good
Speaking of BP, Jordan was great as Killmonger in that movie...
Posted on 3/17/26 at 1:22 pm to Portballs
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Jordan was great as Killmonger in that movie...
I'd love to pull the variant from another universe where Killmonger was on the level and became Black Panther.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 1:33 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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I agree that plenty of actors can play two different roles, but I do think MBJ did an excellent job of making these twins feel like they were clearly connected yet still completely distinct people.
Tom Hardy didn't get nominated for Legend and his portrayal of Twins was objectively better that Jordan's.
MBJ's performance isn't graded against the entire body of cinema over the years. The Oscars are a snapshot of a specific moment - 2026. The argument for MBJ isn't whether he delivered the greatest twin performance ever, but whether his work was worthy of the nomination he received. I believe his performance deserved a nomination, and I have no issue with him winning. In a year without a clear-cut favorite for Best Actor, I would have been satisfied with Leo, Timmy, or MBJ taking home the award.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 6:14 pm to CU_Tigers4life
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It's hard to look the Oscar winners without wondering how much the DEI requirements to qualify factored in. It's like an asterisks mark
I guess that might be true…if you’re racist. Personally, I don’t have any problem thinking a minority can be good at a job.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 6:59 pm to witty alias
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It's hard to look the Oscar winners without wondering how much the DEI requirements to qualify factored in. It's like an asterisks mark
I guess that might be true…if you’re racist. Personally, I don’t have any problem thinking a minority can be good at a job.
Nice try. Let's put it like this, Denzel Washington won 2 Oscars for Glory and Training Day well before the DEI rules for the Academy was mandated and he damned well earned both of them. Also, FWIW, Denzel is so far superior to MBJ it's not even close.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 7:24 pm to CU_Tigers4life
Well who did he win it for? Why didn’t he win best supporting for the other character he played? Was that racist? The whole thing is a joke
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 3/17/26 at 7:24 pm to witty alias
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I guess that might be true…if you’re racist. Personally, I don’t have any problem thinking a minority can be good at a job.
God this strawman has been beaten to pieces.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 7:26 pm to Sam Quint
Nobody even remembers the characters name or any line from the character. The only scenes that have even been discussed are the weird music scene and how technically bad the final shootout scene was.
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 7:28 pm
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