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Posted on 5/26/12 at 7:02 pm to Boh
I don't think Luke's victory over Vader showed a whole lot. Vader wasn't doing anything offensive and had no intention of killing Luke.
I give Obi Wan a lot of credit for defeating Anakin and dueling Vader when he was way pas this prime and Vader clearly intended to kill him. Plus he defeated Darth Maul after Qui Gon couldn't.
Mace Windu defeated the Emperor. No question.
While Yoda was clearly strong with the force, he couldn't beat Dooku and was clearly beaten by the Emperor. And for some reason, didn't think to throw those cave rocks at Dooku's ship.
Anakin defeated Dooku, was stupid against Obi Wan and got his arse cut up. Then defeated Obi Wan which was actually ceded to him. Had the highest midi count. Honestly, just going by the movies, his light saber victories were not impressive. But just for being a bad arse, he deserves extra points.
The Emperor. Defeated by Windu but hard to argue if there was any Jedi more powerful than him.
Tough call.
I give Obi Wan a lot of credit for defeating Anakin and dueling Vader when he was way pas this prime and Vader clearly intended to kill him. Plus he defeated Darth Maul after Qui Gon couldn't.
Mace Windu defeated the Emperor. No question.
While Yoda was clearly strong with the force, he couldn't beat Dooku and was clearly beaten by the Emperor. And for some reason, didn't think to throw those cave rocks at Dooku's ship.
Anakin defeated Dooku, was stupid against Obi Wan and got his arse cut up. Then defeated Obi Wan which was actually ceded to him. Had the highest midi count. Honestly, just going by the movies, his light saber victories were not impressive. But just for being a bad arse, he deserves extra points.
The Emperor. Defeated by Windu but hard to argue if there was any Jedi more powerful than him.
Tough call.
This post was edited on 5/26/12 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 5/26/12 at 7:06 pm to Boh
Anakin had the most potential of any character. Outside of the old republic potential power goes in order Anakin Skywalker, Anakin Solo in a tie with Jacen Solo, then Luke.
The solos never lived long enough to reach peak power like Luke, but Jacen had learned to crush minds by thought alone as well as flow walk through time
The solos never lived long enough to reach peak power like Luke, but Jacen had learned to crush minds by thought alone as well as flow walk through time
This post was edited on 5/26/12 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 5/26/12 at 7:07 pm to theunknownknight
Yoda and then the Emperor follow those. Neither ever rose to the level of the Solos and Luke later
Posted on 5/26/12 at 7:07 pm to alajones
So the smirk was just Obi Wan smirking to himself? I thought it was more of a "wink" between Vader and him. We obviously couldn't see Vaders expression due to obvious reasons. I always thought it was their mutual acknowledgement that they would both turn out good in the end. Am I making too much of it?
Posted on 5/26/12 at 7:09 pm to bengaltygers
quote:Yes.
So the smirk was just Obi Wan smirking to himself?
quote:No. Absolutely not.
. I always thought it was their mutual acknowledgement that they would both turn out good in the end.
Posted on 5/26/12 at 7:10 pm to Caplewood
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That being said Obi Wan beat Lord Vader at his full strengthen full of anger on that lava planet. I think that battle (one of the few redeeming qualities of the prequels) solidifies Obi Wan as the best at overall combat.
Anakin was at about 20% potential when Obi Wan beat him
This post was edited on 5/26/12 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 5/26/12 at 7:13 pm to alajones
Lucas said himself that Vader was at 80% the power of the Emperor. In the books, this was the Emperor's intent. Anakin didn't need the suit, but the Emperor put him in it to restrain Anakin's potential and make him dependent on the suit for life while being vulnerable to lightning. In effect, the slave boy ended being a slave again.
This post was edited on 5/26/12 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 5/26/12 at 7:16 pm to theunknownknight
Now go back and extrapolate that Anakin, via the emperors words was stronger in potential than both he and yoga combined AND that Vader was stronger in actual strength due to experience than young Anakin, we see that the young Anakin in the movies was roughly at 1/5 full strength
Posted on 5/26/12 at 7:23 pm to theunknownknight
Threads like this make me want to dig deeper and read/watch more.
Posted on 5/26/12 at 7:34 pm to theunknownknight
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Anakin was at about 20% potential when Obi Wan beat him
This. Anakin was still a student. He was gifted, but headstrong while Obi-Wan was a Master.
Posted on 5/26/12 at 7:39 pm to Methuselah
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Was Anakin the most powerful Star Wars character?
he could have been but his arrogance got the best of him. Also he was a whiny little bitch especially in episode 2
Posted on 5/26/12 at 8:07 pm to graychef
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Mace > Emperor > Vader > Yoda > Obi Wan > Luke eta: Mace had the Emperor beat until Anakin stepped in. Yoda couldn't beat the Emperor (yes, he was old when they faced each other). I believe Obi Wan was better than Anakin, but not as good as Vader. Less emotion is better. That's why I have Luke rated so low. Same with Anakin.
I firmly believe The Emperor let Mace beat him so that Anakin would save him and fully convert to the Dark Side.
Mace was powerful yea, but The Emperor was all powerful and a master manipulator to boot. He just never foresaw that Vader would return to the Light Side of the Force.
Posted on 5/26/12 at 8:13 pm to RLDSC FAN
The most powerful as far as results, the emperor easily. He defeated the entire jedi force except ben and yoda. It takes the force to accomplish that. Remember mace came at him with three other jedi during the fight. Mace might have been a better swordsman, but definity not a better force user.
Posted on 5/26/12 at 8:51 pm to graychef
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eta: Mace had the Emperor beat
Wrong on so many levels. You completely missed on the point of that scene.
In order for Palpatine to finally turn Anakin, he had to make it took like the Jedi were trying to take over the senate. Palpatine had to make it look like Mace was trying to kill him. Funny how he became so feeble right as Anakin came in.
To the OP: Anakin had the highest midichlorian count and the most potential power, and the few times it was unleashed, he was unstoppable. However, he was not taught very well by Kenobi and lacked a true understanding of the force. The two most powerful in the movies were Yoda and Palpatine, with Palpatine holding the edge in raw power and Yoda the lead in knowledge of the force.
Posted on 5/26/12 at 9:03 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
I think it is at least implied that Palpatine is the most powerful due to his black magic sparkly lightening fingers trick.
Always wonder if Luke striking down the emperor would have instantly turned him to the dark side and if so would the emps be turned into a dark side super baller like OBWans spirit.
Always wonder if Luke striking down the emperor would have instantly turned him to the dark side and if so would the emps be turned into a dark side super baller like OBWans spirit.
Posted on 5/26/12 at 9:05 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
I was a huge Star Wars fan till Lucas ruined by making the prequels. All the Jedi were weak other than the main cast because Lucas allowed mindless stormtroopers to kill them.
The Emperor was the most powerful, he manipulated all of the Jedi including Mace, Yoda, and Anakin.Yoda literally sat down next to the Emperor on multiple occasions but never sensed the force in him, how much power does it take to conceal the force from the most powerful Jedi in the universe? A fight is sort of like any given Sunday, even the most powerful can get beat in a moment.
The Emperor was the most powerful, he manipulated all of the Jedi including Mace, Yoda, and Anakin.Yoda literally sat down next to the Emperor on multiple occasions but never sensed the force in him, how much power does it take to conceal the force from the most powerful Jedi in the universe? A fight is sort of like any given Sunday, even the most powerful can get beat in a moment.
Posted on 5/26/12 at 9:06 pm to Purple Spoon
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Always wonder if Luke striking down the emperor would have instantly turned him to the dark side and if so would the emps be turned into a dark side super baller like OBWans spirit.
Doubt he would know how to do the trick, but then again it never explained how Anakin was able to do it either, considering obj wan and Yoda had to be taught by Qui Gon
Posted on 5/26/12 at 9:30 pm to alajones
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Mace Windu defeated the Emperor. No question.
How can you be so sure about that?
It was the pivotal moment in Anakin being turned. It seemed to me from the movie that the Emporer clearly was letting Mace win in his final play to convince Anakin that the Jedi were really trying to secretly usurp the Republic.
The Emporer snatched up Mace with Force Lightening like a rag doll and threw him across the city once Anakin had made his choice.
Posted on 5/26/12 at 9:31 pm to Boh
If we include the extended universe then Luke hands down
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