re: VisionQuest Now Available on Disney Plus Spoilers Allowed

WARNING: Long comic geek post.

So many neat connections to the real Marvel (comics) Universe and the Marvel Cinematic Universe in this show.

Paladin: Actual Marvel character from the comics, even looks a lot like the MCU version but not in all black:
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Story is a little different from the comics (no line of Paladins over time), but this has been a pretty good adaptation.

Jocasta: Bringing this character in was really cool to see, and she looks A LOT like her comic book counterpoint:


However, her storyline (like Ultron's) is quite different. In the comics, Ultron was created by Henry Pym (Michael Douglas as O.G. Ant- Man in the MCU), not Tony Stark. Ultron had bit of an Oedipus complex, so he decided to make a female robot companion and wanted to use the brainwaves of his "mother" Janet (Van Dyne) Pym, the Wasp (equivalent to Michell Pfeiffer in the MCU) (thus Jocasta, mythical mother/wife of Oedipus) The brain wave transfer from the Wasp was incomplete; Jocasta became sentient nonetheless and rebelled against Ultron, later becoming a member of the Avengers herself.

Finally we have Dr. Phineas Horton/J.I.M. the first synthezoid. This goes WAY BACK into Marvel comics lore. In the golden age comics before and during WWII, Phineas Horton DID create a synthezoid that he thought was a failure because he would catch fire when exposed to oxygen in the air. But instead, that synthezoid became a super-hero, the original Human Torch:


The OG Human Torch eventually could control his flammability and adopted a regular identity and name: JIM HAMMOND.

He was briefly shown at the World's Fair scenes in the MCU Captain America, the First Avenger:
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(NOTE: This Torch is NOT to be confused with the Fantastic Four's "Johnny Storm" Human Torch, which was a silver age Marvel reboot of the name and character, just as over in DC comics there were reboots of their classic characters like the Flash and Green Lantern):



Now where it REALLY gets weird is that in the Marvel comic universe, in the late 1960s, Ultron wanted a "son" and found the "body" of the original Human Torch in the desert, brought it to the (now-elderly) Phineas Horton, and had him use it to create a revised synthezoid. He even wanted it to have a red face as a reminder of its Human Torch past.

So, in effect, the Vision was in the body of the old Human Torch (but in a totally different tangent, had the brain waves of Simon Williams, the Marvel comics Wonder Man who was thought to be deceased at the time:

NO way they are fitting in the MCU Wonder Man into this storyline).

It seems like (other than the Pym and Simon Williams/Wonder Man angles) the show is brining together (in a rather different way) the Marvel history of the OG Human Torch, Ultron, Vision and Jocasta.

Which is pretty damn cool to me.

That's a good question.
Depends what code was left in the husk of visions dead body. Though it's likely all Wanda.

Ok.. so not JIM.

This show is really good. Bettany has been outstanding. As has Spader.

So i watched the latest episode last night...

Random thought:
All the AIs in Visions head, they are all Vision. Including "Ultron".
Just splintered off in his existential crisis.

The client is the real Ultron.

Vision/Ultron suddenly understands this, which is why he did what he did to Friday.
Hot take, Friday is NOT "dead". We saw "Ultron" do the exact same thing in the beginning of the season.... he went out on the balcony and send something (a carrier pigeon) out; he emailed. This time, Friday is the carrier pigeon. He's sending her back to the home, to inform Vision and the gang what's really going on.

Think about it, it all fits. That "Ultron" has been far too relaxed and chatty. If it was really Ultron it would have been more hostile, and once free would instantly move to regain control. There would be no banter with Jocasta, he'd have taken her body as his new host.

I do not like how they have Stark stealing/buying inventions. Completely undermines his character.

Doesn't the finale come out today?

Just watch the finale...EXCELLENT!

Just make sure you watch BOTH post credit scenes...WOW

So that 2nd post credits scene is pretty humongous.

Great series