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re: Vanessa Kirby confirms F4 explores gender politics

Posted on 4/27/25 at 10:43 am to
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 10:43 am to
Dumb things isn't the same thing as forcing gender politics in an established IP.

Seriously, stop pretending this discussion hasn't been recycled to death by now.

Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 10:45 am to
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forcing gender politics in an established IP.

Seriously, stop pretending this discussion hasn't been recycled to death by now.

Name one movie ever created that didnt have gender politics in it
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 10:56 am to
It's part of The Message. The greater push to infuse "the modern day" narrative into every god damn IP or established character, whether it's from 10, 100 or 1000 years ago.

Posted by geauxtigers87
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 10:59 am to
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The Message. T


I read this in the critical drinkers voice haha
Posted by Bama Bird
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:04 am to
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Name one movie ever created that didnt have gender politics in it



I guess it depends on how you define it, but (of the top of my head) I cannot think of anything from 2001: A Space Odyssey, Lawrence of Arabia, Wizard of Oz (despite having a female lead)
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:09 am to
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I cannot think of anything from 2001: A Space Odyssey

I would say the gender politics of the time are reflected in it. Not that that is a problem. But to act like gender politics dont exist in the movie at all is kinda naive. Its just the gender roles we associate as being normal for that time, as with everything else ever created as well as real life history.
This post was edited on 4/27/25 at 11:10 am
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:16 am to
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Its just the gender roles we associate as being normal for that time, as with everything else ever created as well as real life history.


Tell us more.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:31 am to
Bingo
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:37 am to
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Tell us more

My point was pretty clear. Why dont you tell me how you picture a society with zero gender politics? Even animals have gender politics/hierarchy

Acting like they didnt exist until now is just purposefully naive
This post was edited on 4/27/25 at 11:38 am
Posted by SonicAndBareKnuckles
Member since Jun 2018
1876 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:41 am to
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Name one movie ever created that didnt have gender politics in it


We have a political board if you wanna discuss political/philosophical movements but some people feel their need to try to force us into choosing a side in their dumb movements by posting it here.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:47 am to
I agree but yet here are again with another thread with politics in the title on the movie/tv board because someone associated with a movie said it

Are we not supposed to discuss gender politics in a thread with "gender politics" in the title? Id definitely vote in favor of moving the whole thread to the poli board.
This post was edited on 4/27/25 at 11:49 am
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:48 am to
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They just need to sell off their IP for Marvel and Star Wars.


The only two legit buyers, Apple and Amazon, would pull the same shite
Posted by SonicAndBareKnuckles
Member since Jun 2018
1876 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:52 am to
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Are we not supposed to discuss gender politics in a thread with "gender politics" in the title? Id definitely vote in favor of moving the whole thread to the poli board.


This is peak movie/tv discussion
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12444 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:54 am to
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My point was pretty clear.

No it wasn’t, you’re playing a little game with “gender politics”.
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Why dont you tell me how you picture a society with zero gender politics?

No one ever said that, that’s your lie.
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Even animals have gender politics/hierarchy

Do female animals pretend they are male animals? Do male animals pretend they are female animals?
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Acting like they didnt exist until now is just purposefully naive

Acting like a pseudo Marxist like you pretending that there is no difference is also naive.
Don’t be a hypocrite, embrace you delusional ideology, you’re not smarter than most people here. We get where you are coming from.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
26023 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:54 am to
You figs get so triggered over anything at this point.

It's pathetic
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 12:01 pm to
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Do female animals pretend they are male animals? Do male animals pretend they are female animals?

Yes lmao how have you never learned this?



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embrace you delusional ideology, you’re not smarter than most people here

Apparently I am. My ideology is at least my own and not what someone else told me is real or isnt. The good lord blessed me with a brain so that i could observe and solve things on my own.

You on the other hand didnt even know about sexual mimicry in the animal kingdom until today.
This post was edited on 4/27/25 at 12:09 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
43216 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 12:11 pm to

Trans folk don't sneak into women's bathrooms to continue the species. They do it for their own fetish reasons.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 12:12 pm to
Thats anthropology not biology
Posted by SonicAndBareKnuckles
Member since Jun 2018
1876 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 12:12 pm to
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Yes lmao how have you never learned this?


Everyone uses YouTube. Most of us just dont subscribe to YouTubers and form/reaffirm our opinions of things based off of theirs.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 12:15 pm to
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Everyone uses YouTube. Most of us just dont subscribe to YouTubers and form/reaffirm our opinions of things based off of theirs

Yep, and given the choice 90% of people like zilla would sacrifice their intelligence to keep their pride and remain ignorant.

He will see that video and rather than reassess his thoughts he will reform his existing POV to make it fit them and forget he was ever wrong.
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