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re: true detective theories
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:48 pm to Decatur
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:48 pm to Decatur
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Someone tell me this: if this really was supposed to have happened later, case likely would have been resolved by then...AND MARTY AND MAGGIE HAVE SEPARATED.
What? It happened 3 months into their partnership, right when the case was getting hot.
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:51 pm to EarthwormJim
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What? It happened 3 months into their partnership, right when the case was getting hot.
I have no idea what he's trying to say either
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:53 pm to Boudin
Also it's been a few months from episode 1 to where we are now in the story. The case isn't just 4 days old. But I still don't know what Decataur is saying.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:53 pm to NameWithheld
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True Detective Conversations tumblr
Some of those are hilarious.
I think my favorite is the gluten-free one.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:56 pm to EarthwormJim
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It happened 3 months into their partnership, right when the case was getting hot.
That's when say it happened. I don't think they are telling the truth.
Marty works late into the night the day the find Dora Lange. He gets home late and his daughters are already asleep. He wakes up the next morning in the living room...still wearing his work shirt from the day before. In the dinner scene, Marty is wearing a black long sleeved shirt.
I think Rust and Marty are lying about the dinner. Which means they are coordinating. Which likely means they have kept in touch over the last 10 years.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:58 pm to Decatur
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Marty works late into the night the day the find Dora Lange. He gets home late and his daughters are already asleep. He wakes up the next morning in the living room...still wearing his work shirt from the day before. In the dinner scene, Marty is wearing a black long sleeved shirt.
I think your confusing 2 different days. Episode 1 jumps around a little bit.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:59 pm to Boudin
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Yea, it was clear to me that Rust was sober the night he ate at Marty's.
He looked wasted. Obvious.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:00 pm to EarthwormJim
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I think your confusing 2 different days.
Beware the unreliable narrator
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:02 pm to EarthwormJim
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Rust: "It was January 3, 1995. My daughter's birthday. I remember." ... "I had been on the job about three months until then." ... "Anyway, that evening, wasn't even sundown, he decided it was a good time to invite me over for dinner, which I got a problem with, alright, because I'm thinking about Marty's wife and his two kids and how it's my daughter's birthday, and I know there's nothing I can do about it, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but...I'm gonna have a drink" then scene cuts to Marty opening the door for Rust.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:04 pm to Decatur
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Beware the unreliable narrator
Even though the past scenes are intercut with the present day interviews, I don't view them as narratives. Things are shown in the flashbacks that aren't talked about in the interviews, so it stands to reason the flashbacks are truth and not narratives.
Like Rust and Marty with the biker gang never come up in the interview.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:08 pm to EarthwormJim
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so it stands to reason the flashbacks are truth and not narratives.
I wouldn't be so sure for all of it
They practically scream this when Marty says at the Lange crime scene "You attach an assumption to a piece of evidence, you start to bend the narrative to support it. Prejudice yourself."
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:09 pm to EarthwormJim
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Things are shown in the flashbacks that aren't talked about in the interviews, so it stands to reason the flashbacks are truth and not narratives.
This
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:13 pm to Decatur
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I wouldn't be so sure for all of it
It would be bad writing to charge the audience with the duty of differentiating between narrative and history.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:16 pm to Decatur
I have absolutely no clue who is arguing what in here.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:27 pm to EarthwormJim
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It would be bad writing to charge the audience with the duty of differentiating between narrative and history.
Not if they're going for a mind frick
I've presented evidence in the form of statements from Rust and Cohle that they say the dinner was same day they found Dora Lange. I'd say the writers would like you to think that the dinner was the same day.
But Marty's black shirt at the dinner makes zero fricking sense. That's why I think Rust and Marty aren't being truthful with the investigators, who are obviously onto the issue.
As Rust said "A little detail down the line makes you say 'Ohh!"...breaks the case."
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:31 pm to Decatur
Where'd they say it was that night?
I thought they said the case was getting hot, not specifically that night.
Didn't Marty tell Rust on the way back to the station that eventually he would have to come to dinner, but Rust shot it down that night.
The second attempt by Marty was when Rust went to the bar and found the skanks.
Rust either showed up for dinner that night or some night after that.
Rust wasn't drinking yet at the time they found the body.
I thought they said the case was getting hot, not specifically that night.
Didn't Marty tell Rust on the way back to the station that eventually he would have to come to dinner, but Rust shot it down that night.
The second attempt by Marty was when Rust went to the bar and found the skanks.
Rust either showed up for dinner that night or some night after that.
Rust wasn't drinking yet at the time they found the body.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:32 pm to Zed
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The guy on the lawn mower is the key to everything
that may be, but there is nothing in the story on screen that would give us that information…you could say that about 100 different people who have been in one or two scenes so far.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:33 pm to Decatur
I've seen every episode at least twice and I though I had a handle on what is going down, y'all are confusing the frick out of me.
eta: and I think the mindfrick is that Marty and Rust have been in touch the entire time but on the down low because the people they are trying to bring down are powerful as frick. They are being deceptive in their interviews because they are paranoid as shite because they don't know who might be reporting back to who.
eta: and I think the mindfrick is that Marty and Rust have been in touch the entire time but on the down low because the people they are trying to bring down are powerful as frick. They are being deceptive in their interviews because they are paranoid as shite because they don't know who might be reporting back to who.
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:34 pm to Decatur
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Not if they're going for a mind frick
It would still be bad writing.
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But Marty's black shirt at the dinner makes zero fricking sense.
He put on a shirt. The night he slept in the recliner isn't the same night as when they had dinner.
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That's why I think Rust and Marty aren't being truthful with the investigators, who are obviously onto the issue.
We know they aren't being truthful with the investigators already. The flashbacks aren't the same as what they are telling the detectives.
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:36 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Rust either showed up for dinner that night or some night after that.
Ok...any evidence for that?
Rust gave a date, Jan 3, 1995, his daughter's birthday, the same day they found Dora, which drove him to drink. Are we supposed to think that Rust randomly got wasted some other night during their investigation?
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