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re: True Detective S1E4 "Who Goes There"

Posted on 2/10/14 at 5:08 am to
Posted by dsloane
Mt. Juliet, TN
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 5:08 am to
Anyone confused by Ginger sticking with Rust and not trying to flee. Him scaling the fence seemed out of place. Yes, he knew Rust was probably going to keep him alive, but Ginger acting logically while coked up and pistol-whipped seemed off. Beyond that, best hour of TV in a long time.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 6:56 am to
I don't think CGI was used in that scene.
This post was edited on 2/10/14 at 6:59 am
Posted by Jwodie
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:08 am to
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Hmmm even Marty was using the eye mirror in this episode.


IMO I think Rust uses it as a focus exercise or something along those lines.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:30 am to
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Anyone else think that the plot to rob a ghetto with 3 dudes with biker beards dressed as cops and 1 dude with a leather jackets driving up in a Tahoe is just about the dumbest fricking idea ever?



love the show, but that whole sequence was a tad over the top and unbelievable.



agreed. Up till now the show has been flawless, but it went off the rails this episode IMO. The ghetto scene was a little too far reaching.
Here are just a few of the questions that I had:

How is it we saw a dozen or so TPOS on the drive into the hood, but MM didn't encounter a single one in the block he had to walk to get to the stash house?
How the hell does Marty know where Rust is? Does Marty have an intimate knowledge of Beaumont's hood(s)and city streets?
How does Rust put half of a # of shite up his nose and yet maintain his composure throughout the "job"?
How did 2 LSP troopers stroll into Beaumont and kidnap a drug slinging biker without anyone asking WTF? (I realize this one might get answered in future episodes)

Not enough bad stuff here to make me lose respect for the show or not still call it superb, but this sequence was just way too far out there.

Posted by 911Moto
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:32 am to
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I can see how people see rust escape as unlikely. However I just think he is a seasoned bad arse

This has probably been brought up already, but I'd love to see a movie about Rust's undercover years.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38036 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:34 am to
m
quote:

y favorite line in the bar: "The big swingin dick you are, and you can't spot crazy pussy?"


i did LOL at that exchange. Very well done. I like that Rust detaches himself from Marty's struggles.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:37 am to
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How is it we saw a dozen or so TPOS on the drive into the hood, but MM didn't encounter a single one in the block he had to walk to get to the stash house?

During the 6 minutes of that scene, Rust & Ginger stay in the shadows or hidden behind bushes. Right before they jump the fence, a female notices them and yells something [either at Rust or at the thugs who went toward the shootout]

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How does Rust put half of a # of shite up his nose and yet maintain his composure throughout the "job"?

Rust went UC for 4 years [Marty brings up the point that they are only supposed to go UC for 11 months]. This is a dude had a storage lock for just incase something from his narco days popped up. Needless to say, this isn't his first rodeo.


quote:

I'd love to see a movie about Rust's undercover years.


His explanation about what cartel's do to snitches had me creeped the hell out and intrigued at the same time.

This post was edited on 2/10/14 at 7:41 am
Posted by Boudin
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:40 am to
Man, some of y'all over analyze stuff way too much
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:41 am to
not CGI…great interview online with Cary Fukunaga about shooting that scene it is one 6 minute long continuous shot. they had the camera operator hooked into a big elevated boom that picked him up over the fence and put him down on the other side. they had to choreograph so much stuff like when to release the extras running into the street, wen the cop cars would show up, etc…

All in one take…shot at a real projects
Posted by JBeam
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:42 am to
Do you listen to the AfterShowBuzz podcast or youtube channel? That's exactly what they said about that scene & Fukunaga.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38036 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:44 am to
quote:

the 6 minutes of that scene, Rust & Ginger stay in the shadows or hidden behind bushes.


I was referring to their entry into the hood. Rust pretty much slid right up to the front door but never encountered anyone.

quote:

Needless to say, this isn't his first rodeo.


fair enough. Still find it a bit of a stretch. but WTH, its entertainment.

quote:

His explanation about what cartel's do to snitches had me creeped the hell out and intrigued at the same time.


there was some narco blog I stumbled upon once (once). "What has been scene cannot be unscene" is quite fitting for such sites.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:46 am to
quote:

Him scaling the fence seemed out of place.

This was the only minor issue I had with the entire episode.
Posted by JBeam
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:48 am to
Rust's transformation into to "Crash" is fu*king phenonmal.
Posted by LSUvegasbombed
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:50 am to
What is this show about?
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38036 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:52 am to
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What is this show about?

2 detectives tracking a serial killer. and a whole lot more!! You really need to watch it from Ep.1 to get it all. You wont regret it.
Posted by Itismemc
LA
Member since Nov 2008
4794 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:55 am to
I didn't see young pussy ratting out to old pussy coming.
Posted by LSUvegasbombed
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2013
15464 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:57 am to
someone mentioned this... Looks like I dont have a whole lot to catch up on!
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37047 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:59 am to
quote:

Him scaling the fence seemed out of place.


My wife asked this, too. I think he did it because although Rust had him at gun point, it was still his only chance to stay alive or stay out of jail. Remember, he has no idea that Rust is a detective at that point. Should he run unarmed into the gun battle between the bikers, ghetto, and cops? Or follow what the guy with the gun tells him to do?
This post was edited on 2/10/14 at 8:04 am
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:59 am to
I almost forgot to mention this. Maggie pissed me off during the diner scene. Rust went out of his way to meet with her and she decided to make the statement "I bet you were a good husband" with a slight smirk on her face.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:59 am to
quote:

I didn't see young pussy ratting out to old pussy coming.

Yep. And there goes my theory on what causes the falling out between Marty and Rust.
This post was edited on 2/10/14 at 8:00 am
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