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re: True Detective S1E08 "Form And Void"

Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:24 am to
Posted by Putty
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:24 am to
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I thought the Childress and Tuttles were related?


Yeah, they are some illegimate offshoot of the Tuttle brood, but the point is that it's really fricking clear to me that Errol was in no way part of the high society cult or coverup. A former victim sure, but not a participant.
Posted by 632627
LA
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:25 am to
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it was a house of one of the victims


it wasn't a house of one of the victims. it was a house of somebody they interviewed while following up on marie fontenot i believe. In the final episode they went back to the house, not knowing who owned it, and the kid told him it was his grandmothers. They then went to interview the grandma. Had it been the house of a victim, they would have known exactly who the owner was(obviously family of the victim).
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:25 am to
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I'm talking about your national perception line


maybe, i didn't hear anything about this from national outlets early on. Maybe that proves my point by itself.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:25 am to
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Still, he sure moved fast after killing the pup.


He had deceptive speed and a motor that didn't quit.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:25 am to
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but the point is that it's really fricking clear to me that Errol was in no way part of the high society cult or coverup. A former victim sure, but not a participant.


you don't think that maybe he was the one capturing all the children for the molesters?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:26 am to
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maybe, i didn't hear anything about this from national outlets early on. Maybe that proves my point by itself.


there were plenty

Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:26 am to
I think he was involved with them. They denied the relations in the tv report at the end.

So people are still covering up the connection.
Posted by Bayou Sam
Istanbul
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:27 am to
Yeah sorry, there are a lot of people outside td.com who think TD is one of the best. It's certainly in my top 5.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:27 am to
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So people are still covering up the connection.

Goes back to Rust's statement about "what happens along the bayou, stays in the bayou." [paraphrasing]
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:28 am to
To the people saying people from Louisiana only like it so much because it's based here;


Why is this show so incredibly popular everywhere? Because people from all over love it. People that aren't from here love it. The reviews for the show have been nothing but positive. Search true detective on twitter just to see how popular it is. Of course with the setting being in Louisiana and dealing with what's familiar, we might watch a little closer, but we watch and enjoy the show mainly because it's phenomenal television.
Posted by Larry
Collierville, TN
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:28 am to
So will Mcconaughey win both an Oscar and an Emmy in the same year?

Pretty good stuff for someone who's crowning achievement a few years ago was Maid in Manhattan.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15069 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:28 am to
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HBOGo crashed last night due to the high demand of people wanting to watch this show. I don't think it was because of the setting.


that's not his argument. what he is saying is that your average national viewer would rate this show maybe an 8.5 out of 10 and call it great. Average TD viewer would rate it a 9.5 with that extra point being attributed to "hometown bias"

nobody is disputing its a great show and people would still watch no matter where the setting.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:29 am to
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Yeah, they are some illegimate offshoot of the Tuttle brood, but the point is that it's really fricking clear to me that Errol was in no way part of the high society cult or coverup. A former victim sure, but not a participant.


Well he sort of has to be part of the coverup. He's the one that took the girl in the video, her body was at his house, and her murder was covered up by the sheriff and the video of it was hidden by Billy Lee Tuttle.

I took it as the grandfather is the one who fricked up all his kids/grandkids, some of them being succesful and powerful enough to hide the actions of the group.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33049 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:30 am to
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that's not his argument. what he is saying is that your average national viewer would rate this show maybe an 8.5 out of 10 and call it great. Average TD viewer would rate it a 9.5 with that extra point being attributed to "hometown bias"


you may be the only one who gets what im saying.
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25911 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:31 am to
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you don't think that maybe he was the one capturing all the children for the molesters?


I think any kids he was capturing wound up dead and decaying in his own personal Carcosa. Unless they had some mutually beneficial arrangement where he would capture them, turn them over to be "sacrificed" and then retrieve them and put them into Carcosa for safekeeping. However, he clearly hated the Tuttle cult and says so during his rant. I'm trying to find the script, but he basically says frick those guys for what they did to me, I'm doing my own thing.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:33 am to
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I think any kids he was capturing wound up dead and decaying in his own personal Carcosa. Unless they had some mutually beneficial arrangement where he would capture them, turn them over to be "sacrificed" and then retrieve them and put them into Carcosa for safekeeping.


this is what I think

quote:

However, he clearly hated the Tuttle cult and says so during his rant. I'm trying to find the script, but he basically says frick those guys for what they did to me, I'm doing my own thing.


he sure did seem like his sister talking about being raped by grandpa...
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25911 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:33 am to
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He's the one that took the girl in the video, her body was at his house,


If Marie Fontenot's body was at Errol's house, I missed something (apparently totally possible). In fact, many were speculating that his crazy housemate was Fontenot (dispelled only cause DNA proved they were related), which they would not be able to do if her body were found.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:34 am to
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you may be the only one who gets what im saying


But you also said that the people outside Louisiana said it was great because it was on HBO. Then later you said you didn't see where the media was praising this series early on, when in fact many in entertainment media where saying how great it was. Hell, Pizzolota didn't become famous over night because only people in Louisiana wanted to know more about him.

Why doesn't this board praise Treme' or True Blood?
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109128 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:35 am to
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I've met several freakishly smart people who were just incapable of living in the here and now and had to look for metaphysical meanings and structure in every little thing. Brilliant but completely dysfunctional.


Enough about sfp, get back to the episode.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33049 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:36 am to
you are still missing my point.
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