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re: True Detective S1E08 "Form And Void"
Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
Also, who shot the fricking dog at the end and why? Wasn't Errol too far into the woods by then? And why would he do that anyway?
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Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:47 pm to TOKEN
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1. What's up with the rape scene by Marty's daughter and the picture she made on the wall? The grandfather angle seems open ended?
No way to know if it was a rape scene. Weren't the girls discussing a car wreck when Marty walked to the door?
This post was edited on 3/9/14 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:48 pm to Peazey
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Of course there is a desire for full resolution.
there is a desire to get into the shite that got everybody interested in the first place
i haven't cared about a full resolution since episode 5. i was drawn to this show like 99% of everybody else for the cult mystery
there was absolutely no payoff in that regard. we left tonight knowing as much about them as we did after ep1 (except for specific members)
Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:48 pm to DosManos
quote:Probably because the dog would have followed him, tipping off his location. My dog would definitely follow me if we were outdoors together.
And why would he do that anyway?
Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:48 pm to DosManos
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But a part of that exchange stuck with me: when Pizzolatto said, "I have literally no interest in serial killers." The goal of the show was to tell two intense character portraits of these two cops as they worked together and then apart over 17 years, and it just happened that a serial killer case wound up being the subject that the author found most fruitful to do so. I don't think that Pizzolatto then took a half-hearted approach to the plot itself, but the plot was never the most compelling part of the series. And the times when the show stripped away the monologues, the mysticism and the bending of time and space and told a relatively straightforward narrative about this case — I'm thinking of much of episode 6 in particular — were when it felt weakest. I loved hearing Rust wax philosophical about the nature of being, or seeing the look of confused disgust on Marty's face after one of his partner's soliloquies, or observing the many ways in which the stories our heroes told Gilbough and Papania diverged from what we were seeing, but I never felt all that invested in the identity of the Yellow King(*) or in how far and wide the conspiracy spread.
Read more at LINK
This sums it up perfectly. Who cares if they didn't wrap up which Tuttle was which?
Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:48 pm to DosManos
Errol shot the dog, no else was back there.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:49 pm to DosManos
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Also, who shot the fricking dog at the end and why? Wasn't Errol too far into the woods by then? And why would he do that anyway?
No crap, Errol has a gun and kills the dog but decides to run?
Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:50 pm to Peazey
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Of course there is a desire for full resolution
Hell Marty didn't even want full resolution when S&F were giving it to him
Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:50 pm to TOKEN
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No crap, Errol has a gun and kills the dog but decides to run?
He didn't shoot the dog he hit it with the hammer. I'm not sure what you guys heard but there was no gunshot only the sound of the dog crying when it was hit.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
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there is a desire to get into the shite that got everybody interested in the first place
People were interested because you had Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey in a tv show on HBO....how could anyone not watch that?
Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:51 pm to Joe
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Who cares if they didn't wrap up which Tuttle was which?
if this was a character study, we were ripped off there also. marty is not interesting and is an archetypal everyman
rust is so fantastical that he could not exist in reality, and once you see him, you get all of him. he doesn't change at all
people keep bringing this angle up, but it's a cop out
tell me what is so interesting about marty
Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:51 pm to TOKEN
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No crap, Errol has a gun and kills the dog but decides to run?
So you think Errol had a gun but decided to attack Rust and Marty with a hammer?
Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:51 pm to Joe
There's some other good points and tid bits in that link too
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And in that way, just as in the ways he and Marty have found each other to lean on after all this time apart, the conclusion of this first "True Detective" story felt immensely satisfying. When I look back on this show months or years from now, the proper denouement of the Dora Lange investigation will be way down on the list of things that mattered to me. I'll think about Old Rust Cohle telling the cops about the monster at the end of the story right as we get out first freaky look at Reggie Ledoux. I'll think about Marty coming to accept the way the detective's curse snuck up on him. I'll think about these two very different men driving around in a car, talking about the same subjects in what might as well have been two different languages. And I'll think of all the times that I was watching it, even as it was presenting variations on things I'd seen a million times before, and thinking about all the ways that the presentation and execution felt so brand-new, so haunting, so moving, and so memorable. Read more at LINK
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* One beat from the finale that Pizzolatto elaborated on, and that seemed intriguing as it happened: when Errol comes back into the big house after visiting his father in the shed, he watches a few moments of "North By Northwest" and immediately slips into a James Mason accent, then tries on a few other voices. The short version: as part of the backstory Pizzolatto sketched out for the character, Errol has difficulty speaking in his natural voice due to the injuries that scarred his face, so he taught himself how to talk again by watching old movies. Read more at LINK
Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i was drawn to this show like 99% of everybody else for the cult mystery
You keep speaking for the 99%, but most people seemed to enjoy the show and the finale. I was drawn in by the cast and the acting.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:52 pm to ipodking
The dog was hit with the hatchet. There were no gun shots.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:52 pm to TOKEN
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3. The suicide in the prison? One Childress was a guard and the other the Sheriff but who made the call?
Do we know for sure a Childress was a guard? How is that known?
Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:52 pm to Joe Mantegna
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People were interested because you had Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey in a tv show on HBO....how could anyone not watch that?
if i had told them after episode 1 that the cult angle went nowhere and was not resolve, nobody would have kept watching
seriously go read the threads after each episode. they were all almost exclusively about the cult an mystery
Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:53 pm to thatguy1892
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The dog was hit with the hatchet. There were no gun shots.
Good point. I didn't think it looked like a gunshot. I just assumed it was.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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there is a desire to get into the shite that got everybody interested in the first place
What got me interested was Rust. The rest of it was just setting the scene for me.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 11:53 pm to northshorebamaman
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You keep speaking for the 99%
i read the fricking threads where they discussed the episodes and that's pretty much all that was discussed
i've read almost all of the threads for ep2 and ep5 tonight, in fact.
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but most people seemed to enjoy the show and the finale.
they kept moving the goalposts and refused to give up the hope they had after episode 1
it's been a fascinating sociological examination in real time.
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