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re: True Detective S1E08 "Form And Void"

Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:04 am to
Posted by DanglingFury
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:04 am to
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I guess it seems like a lot of people are complaining about this not getting fleshed out. It doesn't bother me. The unsolved mysteries add intrigue to the story. It leaves you somewhat discombobulated as to what exactly is going on. Most importantly to me it set the scene in which they were acting. It was the ubiquitous darkness of corruption and terror that the light is fighting against. Of course there is a desire for full resolution. We couldn't get that without destroying the setting that had been built up the entire series. There was just enough resolution for it not to be a rip off for me. Others may feel differently.



Nice.

Posted by tiger2012
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:04 am to
In the end this was a buddy cop series (two different personalties teamed together) with the stereotypical buddy cop ending.

That's disappointing, after being lured in, with the guys tracking down a serial killer and a mysterious cult with powerful people, plus corruption in law enforcement. In the end, it's a monster man like Jason/michael myers who was the killer.
Posted by Joe Mantegna
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:04 am to
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rust and marty are flat characters.


How are they flat? Marty...ok maybe....but Rust? I dont see anything flat about him besides his mustache.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:05 am to
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The issue you are having is assuming everyone watched for the same reason you did

did you not read the part where i've been reading these threads and i'm talking about what was said within the threads?

this has nothing to do with me

and there is clear evidence of exactly what i'm discussing

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Of course there are theories discussed in threads. What else are you going to talk about?

the characters, duh. that is all that we're left with after the finale tonight

this comment alone invalidates the arguments being made defending the show
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:05 am to
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In the end, it's a monster man like Jason/michael myers who was the killer.


this sums up my disappointment.
Posted by Pigimus Prime
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:06 am to
But unlike Jason and Myers, Errol got himself some sisterly finger before being dispatched by our heros.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 12:07 am
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:06 am to
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:06 am to
I'm still trying to figure out how Rust couldn't exist in reality.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:07 am to
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but Rust? I dont see anything flat about him besides his mustache.

he's the same guy over and over

he's an unrealistic philosopher who would never get to be in the position he's in and he's a character who was created solely to sound cool and wax poetic about existence. he's an unrealistic, boring, one trick pony

and i've said that since episode 1

rust proves the show is about style and not substance. rust is the furthest thing from a developed storyline or complex character. i could stomach that if he was a means to advance the story, but leaving him as the only thing worth a frick at the end? ridiculous

Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:07 am to
so if there was this gigantic cult and cover up angle the ENTIRE show, why in the end was it one man doing all of this on his own? where was the cult?
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:08 am to
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there is a desire to get into the shite that got everybody interested in the first place

i haven't cared about a full resolution since episode 5. i was drawn to this show like 99% of everybody else for the cult mystery

there was absolutely no payoff in that regard. we left tonight knowing as much about them as we did after ep1 (except for specific members)





As I understand it, ensuing seasons will feature new actors, playing new detectives in new locations. But what if these new detectives come across similar killings with the Yellow King/Cthullu Mythos trappings? Making the cult the string that ties one season to another. That could bring our two boys back into the action further down the road when some future det. finds the connection.

As it stands tonight, I found S1 outstanding but the finale a little disappointing. 2-3 seasons down the road I might feel very differently about the finale.

Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:09 am to
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so if there was this gigantic cult and cover up angle the ENTIRE show, why in the end was it one man doing all of this on his own? where was the cult?



You thought everyone on Lost was dead the whole time didn't you?
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 12:10 am
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:10 am to
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the characters, duh. that is all that we're left with after the finale tonight

this comment alone invalidates the arguments being made defending the show

You are in the minority. Congrats on having an opinion.

Will you be reading all the episode threads? Some of them are long.
Posted by Pigimus Prime
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:10 am to
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so if there was this gigantic cult and cover up angle the ENTIRE show, why in the end was it one man doing all of this on his own? where was the cult?


Could it be to show that not all things end perfectly and neatly? Perhaps the goal was to end the story by catching the main culprit responsible for the beginning and the rest is left to the imagination.
Posted by Joe Mantegna
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:10 am to
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rust proves the show is about style and not substance. rust is the furthest thing from a developed storyline or complex character. i could stomach that if he was a means to advance the story, but leaving him as the only thing worth a frick at the end? ridiculous


There is no story without Rust
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:10 am to
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I'm still trying to figure out how Rust couldn't exist in reality.

have you ever met a cop who spoke like rust?

have you ever met one who was promoted to detective?

there is literally nothing about rust that would allow him to move positively through a government bureaucracy, let alone policing agencies.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:10 am to
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You thought everyone on Lost was dead the whole time didn't you?


i get you are trying to be witty here but that dig doesnt land on anything ive said. there was a cult...
Posted by DanglingFury
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:11 am to
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In the end this was a buddy cop series (two different personalties teamed together) with the stereotypical buddy cop ending.


Isn't that the point, they took a familiar story, and told it in about the coolest way possible? To me the show was Lethal Weapon meets Silence of the Lambs.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:11 am to
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But what if these new detectives come across similar killings with the Yellow King/Cthullu Mythos trappings?

then it becomes more ridiculous than the character or rust, honestly
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 12:12 am to
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so if there was this gigantic cult and cover up angle the ENTIRE show, why in the end was it one man doing all of this on his own? where was the cult?

It wasn't one man. The cult still exists. This was pretty clear.
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