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re: Treme- 2nd episode tonight
Posted on 4/20/10 at 3:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/20/10 at 3:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i think it is fair to criticize a drama for over-relying on music.
This IS a show focused on music and the musicians that play it, but ok, that's fine...personal preference and all.
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it makes your writing seems sloppy and unfocussed
I don't really know how you decided on that.
But I'm sure you'll tell us...
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Posted on 4/20/10 at 3:27 pm to TDTGodfather
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yeah, which was a little crazy that cops and parents were called after they were like 12 hours "missing".
gee, wonder if in a place like new orleans they just didn't make it in yet.
I actually think that was pretty truthful bc the tourists came across as goody2shoes types from some Baptist Church in Wisconsin which means they probably have crazy conservative parents.
Posted on 4/20/10 at 3:48 pm to STEVED00
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I actually think that was pretty truthful bc the tourists came across as goody2shoes types from some Baptist Church in Wisconsin which means they probably have crazy conservative parents.
true, just glad they came down to rebuild and not stand on bourbon with a megaphone yelling at people.
Posted on 4/20/10 at 9:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
man, i dont get your criticism of this show.
from 01-05 i lived in BR and frequented NOLA for the music in particular. from 05-07 i lived in nola, including when the show was set.
i like how this show incorporates new orleans fixtures and weaves them into its fictional tale. some minor parts aside, i think this show is a decent portrayal of new orleans.
i would really love for them to talk about losing Twiropa as a venue, that would cement this show to me as being made by producers who LOVE new orleans.
so far, the characters are great, and i think this has the potential to be not the same as, but as good as "the wire." i cant wait to watch the stories unfold from week to week.
Posted on 4/20/10 at 10:03 pm to makinskrilla
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so far, the characters are great
i just don't see it
the show is like 1-2 characters slices up and mixed up into 4-5 characters
zhan and goodman are your typical nola-douche transplants
the restaurant owner and lester from the wire are trying to rebuild their little life
zhan and bunk are the struggling musicians who refuse to get real jobs. bunk is less sympathetic b/c he has a family to support. zhan is just a typical individual leach trying to live beyond his means to be "cultured"
This post was edited on 4/20/10 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 4/20/10 at 11:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the people from wisconsin
were horrible actors/actresses BTW
the opening scene talking to the street musicians was BADDDDd
Posted on 4/20/10 at 11:47 pm to TDTGodfather
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yeah, which was a little crazy that cops and parents were called after they were like 12 hours "missing".
they were supposed to be up at 8am with their church group to rebuild houses, so they called the cops cause they were concerned
Posted on 4/21/10 at 6:03 am to Lester Earl
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were horrible actors/actresses BTW
i bet there are people in wisconsin who watched this episode and went on message boards to ask when somebody would "get it right"
Posted on 4/21/10 at 6:43 am to SlowFlowPro
SFP do you ever sleep bro? 
Posted on 4/21/10 at 7:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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zhan and goodman are your typical nola-douche transplants
transplants? What do you mean? Goodman is an enlish prof at tulane and zahn is a kid from a wealthy family who is more interested in music than chasing a career. Pretty beleivable. I didnt really like the street musicians, but everyone else seems pretty authentic.
Jake, do you just hate new Orleans?
Posted on 4/21/10 at 7:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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zhan and goodman are your typical nola-douche transplants
Zahn does not seem 2 be a transplant. It seems like he is a self-righteous hippie/slacker that comes from an afluent NOLA family (actually pretty common bc its easy to be anti-establishment when you can run to mommy and daddy every time u get in a bind). His character got a lot more likeable after last episode IMO.
Goodman's character, well I just don't know enough about him after the two episodes. The scenario w/ Tulane dropping engineering after the storm was real and had a lot of people upset. The scenario with his daughter is REALLY authentic. Several priviledges children went to school in BR/Houston for at least 6 months after the storm. Not sure if he is a transplant or not (Goodman in real life is but that doesn't mean his character is).
Posted on 4/21/10 at 8:38 am to makinskrilla
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I didnt really like the street musicians, but everyone else seems pretty authentic.
agreed, me and the g/f both looked at each other like "what the hell" during his little part.
The thing that sold me on authentic was the first scene of the first episode. The verbage used was spot on in my opinion.
This post was edited on 4/21/10 at 8:43 am
Posted on 4/21/10 at 9:04 am to SlowFlowPro
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zhan and bunk are the struggling musicians who refuse to get real jobs.
Ok, my brother in law has a music degree and chose not to get a "real job" and instead all he wants to do is play in a jazz band. He does play in a jazz/funk band in new orleans but he also gets gigs on the side like filling in on bourbon street for other drummers. He doesn't like the gig but it pays a lot of money, so he does it. I thought the part in the show where the black guy didn't want to admit he got a gig on bourbon was pretty authentic.
Posted on 4/21/10 at 11:26 am to STEVED00
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His character got a lot more likeable after last episode IMO.
Let me just say that I don't think "likable" and "authentic" are the same thing at all. The truth is most people are not all one thing or another. Despite the fact that Zahn's character may not be likable, I think he is VERY authentic/real and representative of many people I've encountered in New Orleans. He's a self-righteous and annoying New Orleans snob. But he's also pretty funny. This isn't a romantic comedy where the lead character needs to be likable. If the mission statement was to capture authenticity and real New Orleans chatterers, I think they hit it out of the park with him.
Posted on 4/21/10 at 12:38 pm to clooneyisgod
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He's a self-righteous and annoying New Orleans snob. But he's also pretty funny.
Sorry. Let me correct I think Zahn's character got a lot more authentic and likeable the 2nd episode. Drinking a $300 bottle of wine and needing to be involved in the 1st 2nd line were a little over the top in the first episode. I thought he was a lot more believable in the 2nd episode.
I especially enjoy the way they made his parents rich aristocratic New Orleanians bc I lot of the self-righteous hippie/slacker types that I know come from $$ so they have no problem acting the way they do bc $$ is not an issue.
Posted on 4/21/10 at 1:33 pm to STEVED00
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The scenario w/ Tulane dropping engineering after the storm was real and had a lot of people upset. The scenario with his daughter is REALLY authentic.
my hatred of him is mostly from his scenes in ep 1
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Not sure if he is a transplant or not
i assume a tulane prof is one. i could be wrong
transplants were a word i used from earlier conversation in this thread. i prefer nola-douches, but i wanted to be fair. i will come up with a term to describe the type
Posted on 4/21/10 at 1:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
the ongoing "all the crime moved to Houston " is/isnt funny
Posted on 4/21/10 at 4:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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my hatred of him is mostly from his scenes in ep 1
I really understand his frustration in episode 1 bc people make quick assumptions w/o any knowledge of the situation. If anything I probably would have punched that reporter in the face for being an antagonist dick...
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prefer nola-douches
Zahn's character is a NOLA Douche. I agree. I know people like him, but I still think his character is entertaining... Partly bc I want him to get called out for his antics...
Posted on 4/21/10 at 4:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i assume a tulane prof is one. i could be wrong transplants were a word i used from earlier conversation in this thread. i prefer nola-douches, but i wanted to be fair. i will come up with a term to describe the type
You are obviously better at picking up the intricacy of sports and being contrarian based on what you see there. Your ability to pay attention to the details of characters on film/tv and enjoy the attention to detail is clearly lacking.
Posted on 4/21/10 at 5:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Dude, I know you get a kick out of being the Skip Bayless of TD, but you need to polish up your act.
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