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re: tOfficial Better Call Saul S06E07 “Plan and Execution” Thread

Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:11 pm to
Posted by Delta9
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:11 pm to
Born Yesterday with Judy Holiday

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Posted by RonLaFlamme
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:30 pm to
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In AZ


I stopped here.
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:42 pm to
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I stopped here.

Damn it.

Even more true in New Mexico though. 6 sitting judges with one vacancy. Also, just one district for the whole state.
Posted by ThunderSnow
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:25 pm to
So does that can spin of a dropped carbonized drink actually work? Is that a common knowledge? 1st I've seen that handy trick.
Posted by RUFshreve
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:48 pm to
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Royals bag anyone?

3 pages no takers.

I'll check back in the morning. Better have a reason for the diamonds for keeping me waiting.


Dude seriously, wtf is wrong with you? I've never taken the time to respond to any of your dumb shite because it was obvious trolling, but this KC Royals bag theory is just beyond retarded.

Two people have already made it abundantly clear that the Royals are the MLB team of the Omaha area. Does there need to be some well thought out reason for every single item, in every single scene?

Why was Lalo showering at a truck stop? Wonder what the truck stop signifies?

Why does Gene become a manager at a Cinnabon? Why not a Dunkin Donuts?

What was the reason Lalo gave Hector a bell after his stroke? Why not a bicycle horn?

You're searching for relevance in the most minute of details. It probably doesn't mean anything. The writing on this show is great already, there's no need to look for hidden meanings in every single inanimate object.
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:51 pm to
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So does that can spin of a dropped carbonized drink actually work? Is that a common knowledge? 1st I've seen that handy trick.


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Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 1:48 am to
everyone poor one out for my man Howard Hamlin.

That dude is probably the only one of the main cast throughout BCS who has a decent moral compass and he gets treated this way

Seriously, i Think Howard is the only main character in the entire show who is actually a good person.
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Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:52 am to
he was right the whole time. He actually stood up for Jimmy to his brother a few times
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 6:12 am to
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A few concerns with the Sandpiper plan:

Howard would have pulled Cliff aside and talked with him about his suspicions before blowing up the mediation.

Howard would have retrieved the pics from his office before accusing the mediator.


That’s part of why they drugged him I think, to keep him from thinking rationally and acting out just like he did. Howard could easily made small talk with the judge upon his arrival tying down when he got into town and ruling out if he ever went to the park.

For some reason I keep thinking this judge was from another state, neighboring, but another state.

And at this point, I would not be surprised if Jimmy and Kim sent in the old lady early to only give Howard a brief look at the photos then give him a reason to leave his office and not to keep them in hand. I mean, we see exactly how deep this plan went with Howard figuring out how they got him a phony PI, something we never saw as the audience.
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 6:14 am
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:08 am to
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He could hear the scratch even he was on hold


So Mike has unlimited resources thanks to Gus and has been shown to be very intelligent in security measures, but he fails to use a listening device that isn't obvious? I guess a good plot twist at this point would be Mike and Gus knew Lalo would call Hector and discover the bug and lure him into a trap. Otherwise Mike and Gus did a poor job of planning this thing thinking the house was where Lalo would reemerge.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88712 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:15 am to
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So Mike has unlimited resources thanks to Gus and has been shown to be very intelligent in security measures, but he fails to use a listening device that isn't obvious?


I'm normally a dumbass on picking up subtle little things but this one wasn't subtle at all unless you had background noise or other shite going on while watching the episode. It was absolutely crystal clear plain as day that you could hear scratching on the line during both phone calls.

As for being sloppy, I know we look at them as superhuman but I mean the average person wouldn't think anything of a noise like that. Also in BB when he bugged the white's house he was by himself with no one home so he could drill holes int eh wall and plant stuff at his own pace. How exactly is he going to tap the phones at the retirement home? I don't know, but the fact that it resulted in a bug that was less than 100% silence isn't really a concern of mine.

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Otherwise Mike and Gus did a poor job of planning this thing thinking the house was where Lalo would reemerge.


eh, idk if I agree with that. they don't know what the viewer does. To them, the only thing they know is what came directly out of lalo's mouth and based on that it'd be perfectly reasonable to assume he's going to go to gus's house that night.
Posted by rebelrouser
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:19 am to
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I mean the average person wouldn't think anything of a noise like that.


Between Lalo, Mike and Gus, there are no average people. These are brilliant calculating men engaged in a deadly game of cat and mouse. Little mistakes get you killed.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:25 am to
I guess I just don't think it's as big of a deal.

Also I'm not using "it's just a tv show" as a copout but we as the viewer are supposed to know that lalo is onto what's happening and he knows he's being listened to, and then changes up what he's going to say to hector. That scratch gave a way to do that.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 11:04 am to
BB and BCS have used clothing colors to signify where characters stand on the good and bad divide. Kim has been in blue for a lot of the show but has had some red come into her wardrobe this year.

In the Howard death scene she is wearing pink. Pink usually signifies innocence and I don't recall her or anyone else wearing that color in either show.

My thinking is Howard being killed in front of her, in her living room, is the impetus for her to get out. Off the path she placed herself on and out of Albuquerque.

Other than one brief meeting with Mike, where she does not find who he is or works for, she knows nothing of Gus's operation. Lalo is pretty certain to die. She knows nothing to make her a threat to those left so gets out.

Meanwhile, Jimmy is a bit more connected making it impossible for him to leave. We know in BB that Mike is a business associate of Saul, and doesn't really care for him, so Saul essentially being forced to stay due to circumstances makes some sense.

Just some more stream of consciousness.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 11:05 am to
My theory is that Lalo survives and we see Saul deal with him in the future where he's Gene.
Posted by StrongOffer
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 11:11 am to
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My theory is that Lalo survives and we see Saul deal with him in the future where he's Gene.
That would fun to watch, but I just don't know that it makes sense. Like other have said, Gus would have been less sure of himself in BB and also told Hector that he was the last of the Salamancas.
Posted by NewBR
Member since Sep 2008
768 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 11:17 am to
For a show that nailed the mundane nature of practicing law, the judge thing seemed off. Three seasoned litigators like Howard, Jimmy, and Kim would have known a judge in Santa Fe. There has to be overlap between ABQ and Santa Fe practices. Particularly Howard, who seems the type to go to political events and Bar conferences. Just seemed off that Kim had to go to the Bar Journal to find a picture and Howard had no knowledge of the guy other than what Cliff said.

Small quibble with a great show but as others have said, there seem to be a few shortcuts this season to move the story to where they want it to be.
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 11:19 am
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 11:26 am to
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That would fun to watch, but I just don't know that it makes sense. Like other have said, Gus would have been less sure of himself in BB and also told Hector that he was the last of the Salamancas.
Lalo faked his death once and while the only person to not believe him was Gus he could do it again i'm sure.
Posted by MF Doom
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 11:38 am to
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Wish they would have let Vince and Peter write that last season of Ozark.


I feel sorry for Peter Gould. I wonder how many people don’t realize that Vince Gilligan has very little to do with the show nowadays
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 11:39 am to
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My thinking is Howard being killed in front of her, in her living room, is the impetus for her to get out. Off the path she placed herself on and out of Albuquerque.



aaand she will soon have the payout from sandpiper. She gone
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