re: tOfficial Better Call Saul S05E09 “Bad Choice Road” Thread

Lalo had to get out of the US

he doesnt trust Nacho, so he made Nacho bring him to Mexico to gauge him

Gus said Lalo was untouchable north of the border, but now that he is south of the border my guess is Gus has Nacho take him out (very quietly)

Nacho then goes back to ABQ and Saul has no idea Lalo was whacked in Mexico

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Nacho then goes back to ABQ and Saul has no idea Lalo was whacked in Mexico

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seems reasonable but nacho would be on the run from the twins soon enough if so.

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Yes lmao. Omg she grabbed a cork! J+K=S confirmed. Shiny object lmao.

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So you believe Vince and Peter just do all these random things and they have no meaning. Gotcha.

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seems reasonable but nacho would be on the run from the twins soon enough if so.

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Lalo isn't quite sure what's going on but he certainly doesn't trust Nacho right now, if for no other reason than Nacho is the one that introduced Lalo to Saul.

We've figured that Nacho either becomes vaccum guy's first customer or gets discovered and killed by Lalo but what if there is a third option.

I'm stealing this because I read this on another board but what if Nacho betrays Gus and becomes a triple agent?

Lalo is now the lesser of two evils since he's not the one (almost literally) holding a gun to his father's head and Lalo actually respects him and would be essentially leaving him in charge.

Gus, meanwhile and as we know from his conversation with Mike, has no intention of cutting Nacho loose and doesn't even have some hidden and grudging respect for Nacho. He seems to honestly dislike him because he's unpredictable, a cardinal sin in the Fring organization.

Also, the post I read claimed (and I haven't verified) that there is a scene in Breaking Bad where Mike and Gus are discussing a problem and Gus says something to the effect of "I believe that fear is a poor motivator" You can retcon that as Gus acknowledged to Mike that he was right when he said that about Nacho and Gus ignoring him led to that biting them in the arse.

Now the theory has problems, namely that Lalo wouldn't just let Nacho giving Hector a stroke slide since "La Familia es toda" but it is something to consider.

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Lalo is now the lesser of two evils

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Hector was going to force him to use his dad's business to smuggle drugs. I doubt he sees the Salamanca's as a viable option. He's probably met Tuco too.

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I hope Nacho confesses to lalo what he did to Hector right before pulling the trigger and murdering him.
Then comes back to the states and Gus has killed his father thinking nacho fled. Nacho then vacuums out.

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That would be an awesome episode.

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When Kim started throwing out ways for Lalo to launder money right after having quit the firm and falling into the pit of Saul Goodman, it makes me think she’s working behind the scenes w Saul in BB and laundering his and his clients’ money through shell corporations

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It seems more and more plausible but it just doesnt fit into the story we’ve seen in BB and BCS..
If she’s such a heavy hitter Law weapon as we’ve seen in BCS with mesa verde and the like, why would she be relegated to background money laundering in BB. In BB a simple accountant like skyler handled the money laundering for Walt.


Does jimmy using ISZA, royals items, or other shiny Easter eggs from Kim in BCS confirm J+K=S? or is it just jimmy is the lonely lawyer that he is In BB And these things reminds him of love lost?

Remember the foreshadowing of Kim having to leave in the middle of the night barefoot. Kim not getting in her moms car on the way home. Jimmy telling her she’s going down a bad choice road. (Potentially) Kim withholding her middle name to invalidate the marriage, the judge commenting ‘hmm no middle name’, meanwhile jimmy gets his JMM initials briefcase. These are all actual plot suggestions that something terrible happens between the J/K.

Im not buying it just yet, Easter eggs don’t outweigh actual plot developments, especially since the Easter eggs can be entirely explained by Jimmy being the lonely/greedy person he is in BB. Vince ended BB with everything bad happening to everyone. BCS is set up for everything bad to happen to Lalo, jimmy, Kim nacho, et al.

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This isn't how Vince and Peter work. These things have meaning. I could be wrong about what they mean, but this stuff isn't in there because he misses Kim.

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Maybe, maybe not. But what about the heavy negative foreshadowing for Kim? Leaving barefoot at night, recent car wreck, going down a bad choice road? ISZA/cork Easter eggs could literally be explained by ‘jimmy misses kim’, and you got hit hard by misdirection (which we agree Vince loves).

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I would say that the end of BB goes bad for Gus, Mike, and Saul. They're all BCS characters too. Maybe we find out that's when shite goes bad for Kim too.

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I would say that BB ends (as in these characters lost nearly/everything) Walt, mike, Skyler+fam, aryans gang, cartel, Gus’ corporation associates, Jesse+girlfriends, probably every other character besides sauls’ secretary, badger and skinny pete. Sure Jesse ends up free, after years of torture, being on the lamb, and broke. Yea Gus, mike, and Saul are in BCS but we already know shite goes terribly for them.

Im not saying you’re 100% wrong that kim isnt in the background working with jimmy, but that seems like a cheap divergence of plot in favor of Easter eggs which may just be misleading shiny objects for fanboys to jizz over, because Vince is that type of guy to include Easter eggs for fans to jizz over.

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Do you realize that moments after Kim said they should get married TMC a sister station played Ice Station Zebra? There's no way a rational person can believe that was a coincidence

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jimmy using ISZA because he misses kim doesnt make it just a coincidence, its not an irrational explanation.