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re: tOfficial Better Call Saul S05E07 “JMM” Thread
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:55 am to musick
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:55 am to musick
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I haven't watched it yet but did your ISZA happen as planned?
Not yet, but I think they set up the reason it has to happen.
I got a little excited about the episode description and assumed that's what it was. What actually happened was just as significant though. I will let you watch before I say anything, but there is about to be a good reason to keep the money trail confusing.
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:11 am to Ham Solo
I think I may have just have figured out a major part of how Saul and Nacho screw Lalo.
It varies by state a little, but if a bail bondsmen post bail and the defendant dies they get that money returned.
On a cash bail, which was specifically mentioned in this episode, the money is returned to whoever posted the bail.
The judge specifically mentioned a cash bail and Lalo told Jimmy that it's up to him to get it.
I'm thinking Lalo gets killed, probably by Nacho and Saul/Nacho end up with some split of the cash.
Nacho, or his dad, or both have to be disappeared by the disappearer. After Mike and Nacho's conversation, I'm betting Mike finds the disappearer and has Saul set Nacho up with him.
More than likely Nacho will be hiding from Gus not the cartel, but Mike throws him a bone. Jimmy of course won't know the full details of Gus and assume he's running from Lalo's guys.
It varies by state a little, but if a bail bondsmen post bail and the defendant dies they get that money returned.
On a cash bail, which was specifically mentioned in this episode, the money is returned to whoever posted the bail.
The judge specifically mentioned a cash bail and Lalo told Jimmy that it's up to him to get it.
I'm thinking Lalo gets killed, probably by Nacho and Saul/Nacho end up with some split of the cash.
Nacho, or his dad, or both have to be disappeared by the disappearer. After Mike and Nacho's conversation, I'm betting Mike finds the disappearer and has Saul set Nacho up with him.
More than likely Nacho will be hiding from Gus not the cartel, but Mike throws him a bone. Jimmy of course won't know the full details of Gus and assume he's running from Lalo's guys.
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 1:25 am
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:17 am to Ham Solo
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hat being said, why has Gus struggled for years to get the Madrigal guy his 4.8 million back, but Lalo is like 7 million bail, no problem?
I thought it was that the Cartel is coming up with the money for lalo. Not Gus.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 6:21 am to Ham Solo
IIRC, in Saul’s first BB episode he thinks Walt and Jesse are cartel members and asks if Lalo sent them to kill him.
Saul may play a part in double-crossing him, but it sounded like he thought he was still alive at that point.
Saul may play a part in double-crossing him, but it sounded like he thought he was still alive at that point.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 7:50 am to dawgdayafternoon
Can someone remind me who the guy in the robe is/was?
Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:21 am to dallastiger55
Peter Schuler, a German executive of Madrigal Electromotive and business partner of Gus.
Seeing his character again was quite shocking.
Seeing his character again was quite shocking.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:27 am to dawgdayafternoon
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IIRC, in Saul’s first BB episode he thinks Walt and Jesse are cartel members and asks if Lalo sent them to kill him.
Saul may play a part in double-crossing him, but it sounded like he thought he was still alive at that point.
That's an issue that a couple of us have been discussing the past few days.
It appears Lalo has to die because Gus tells Hector the Salamanca name will die with him.
It also appears Saul either thinks he's alive or that his men are still are still carrying out his orders after his death.
The two different scenes appear to contradict each other, so it will be tough to satisfy both.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:30 am to AMS
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I thought it was that the Cartel is coming up with the money for lalo. Not Gus.
I think either I'm not being clear or you're misunderstanding me.
I'm asking how Lalo can afford 7 million for bail, but Gus can't afford 4.8 for his madrigal partner.
It just seems like Gus should have way more cash than Lalo. It's just nitpicking, but it stuck out to me.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 12:03 am
Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:34 am to dallastiger55
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Can someone remind me who the guy in the robe is/was?
He was the Madrigal guy that killed himself with the heart paddles in BB.
After the superlab was discovered he was about to be busted.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:37 am to Ham Solo
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That's an issue that a couple of us have been discussing the past few days.
It appears Lalo has to die because Gus tells Hector the Salamanca name will die with him.
It also appears Saul either thinks he's alive or that his men are still are still carrying out his orders after his death.
The two different scenes appear to contradict each other, so it will be tough to satisfy both.
I'm of the mindset that Saul has no clue what happens to Lalo after the bail is paid. Mike isn't too keen on providing Saul more details than he needs to know.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:42 am to tonic
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I'm of the mindset that Saul has no clue what happens to Lalo after the bail is paid. Mike isn't too keen on providing Saul more details than he needs to know.
Agree about Mike, but he will have to know something about Lalo getting screwed over by Nacho and probably himself.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:54 am to Ham Solo
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Can someone remind me who the guy in the robe is/was?
He was the Madrigal guy that killed himself with the heart paddles in BB.
I don’t remember that. Was that last season of BB?
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:02 am to Nodust
S4. Towards the end before Gus dies.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:02 am to Nodust
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I don’t remember that. Was that last season of BB?
It was just after Gus died. It showed him doing a taste test of different types of dips. The authorities show up to talk to or arrest him. He locks himself in the bathroom and shocks himself with the heart paddles.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:04 am to Nodust
He appears in the opening scene of the episode “Madrigal” (S5E2).
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:23 am to Cow Drogo
The freaking pacing of this show is PERFECT. It's a shame that somehow this show doesn't get the amount of pages on here anymore.. but this is easily the best show on television and has been since the beginning.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:27 am to dawgdayafternoon
I wish their discussion had given some details about what happened in Chile...
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:53 am to Ham Solo
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Agree about Mike, but he will have to know something about Lalo getting screwed over by Nacho and probably himself.
Oh yeah, Saul will know something isn't right with the Lalo situation because Saul is no dummy but I don't think he will know if Lalo is dead or not.
In BB when Saul thinks Walter and Jesse are Lalo's guys, he definitely doesn't act as if he knows Lalo to be dead (if that is actually what happens to Lalo.)
Posted on 3/31/20 at 11:02 am to Ham Solo
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It showed him doing a taste test of different types of dips.
Loved that they had him dip the fry in ketchup in this episode
Posted on 3/31/20 at 11:06 am to InThroughTheOutDore
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I wish their discussion had given some details about what happened in Chile
I’m sure it’s coming. The writers want you to want that. Having Lydia present when Gus made that reference was setting up Lydia as the vehicle to draw the backstory out of Gus or the Madrigal guy. Lydia was portrayed as not knowing (Gus puts his back to her to exclude her from the conversation) but she may soon insist on knowing as part of her involvement.
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