re: tOfficial Better Call Saul S04E04 “Talk” Thread

I thought Mike did tell Gus. I thought that was how Gus knew what Nacho was up to. If not, what was the "there's something you need to know about" conversation about?

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You maybe right but Mike says “I said I wouldn’t kill Salamanca, I didn’t say I’d be his bodyguard”

Mike probably told him Nacho was working against Hector but seems he didn’t know for sure that Nacho tried to poison him until Gus’ doctor checked him out in the hospital.

Nacho didn't poison Hector, he took away his heart medicine (nitroglycerin?) and swapped it for aspirin so it would be useless if Hector had a cardiac event that required the real medicine.

They spent a few episodes on the mechanics of Nacho's swap, both initially and swapping back in the real medicine, plus his throwing the duplicate bottle Nacho made off a bridge.

Okay, I just finished the episode. The Mike, Gus, Nacho situation is definitely strange.

I'm going to review a few scenes tomorrow to refresh my memory. What I remember is the scene outdoors where Mike tells Nacho not to do this and to switch the pills back. Shortly after Mike tells Gus there is a situation he needs to be aware of, but the scene ends before he tells him the situation. We are left to assume it's the Nacho pill situation.

During the Hector Gus meeting, Gus is clearly eyeballing Nacho as if he is a wild card. He definitely knows something is up with him.

The writers for this show rarely get sloppy, but I'm wondering if they decided to change course just a bit since the end of last season.

It looks like the writers are trying to play it off like Mike didn't tell him in that conversation last season. If not why was he eyeballing Nacho so hard during the meet up, and how did he know to have a tail on Nacho when he threw the pills?

They could try to say that all Mike told Gus was that Nacho was making a move on Hector but left the pills out if the conversation. This would explain Gus eyeballing Nacho and tailing him when he threw the pills. The problem with this is, why is Gus now mad at Mike? How does Gus now know that Mike knew about the pills unless Nacho told Gus that Mike knew everything.

Unless my memory is off a bit, the writers have altered their plans a tad the past few months, and didn't have a perfect way to do so.

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Because Gus wants to torture Salamanca

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Didn't Gus fly in a specialist from Boston or somewhere to attend to Tio in the hospital, to make sure he survived?

Yea, the same Gus who said he decides when hector dies. He wants to keep him alive to continue to torture/torment him, and to keep up the ruse that he’s trying help all the while cooperating with Eladio.

Love the series but season 4 has been pretty blah so far. I miss Chuck and I don’t find myself rooting for Jimmy anymore (which is probably the point of this season)

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Yea, the same Gus who said he decides when hector dies. He wants to keep him alive to continue to torture/torment him, and to keep up the ruse that he’s trying help all the while cooperating with Eladio.

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This^^^^

Remember this is Gus' long range plan for revenge as well as become head of the cartel...it was Hector that was Eladio's henchman at the time thay assassinated Gus' partner Max at the poolside meeting with Eladio when Gus first approached Eladio to be partners after they set up several Hermanos restaurants in Mexico and starting manufacturing their own strain of meth and used the restaurants as cover, but Eladio took it as disrespect and had Max killed and the only reason he did not kill Gus was because Gus had powerful ties to the Pinochet regime in Chile.

Okay, I went back and rewatched the relevant scenes from last season.

My memory was off a bit.

Nacho does tell Mike the plan
He never asks Mike to help execute it

Here is where my memory was off.

Mike never even hinted or made a single comment about Nacho's plan to Gus. They only spoke about laundering Mike's cash.

After Hector collapses Gus somehow instantly knows it was Nacho. Maybe because Nacho picked up the pills or because he had another source of info.

The only remaining question is how did he just now find out that Mike knew the whole time?