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re: tOfficial Better Call Saul S04E01 “Smoke” Thread

Posted on 8/6/18 at 10:26 pm to
Posted by craigbiggio
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 10:26 pm to
I fricking love Howard. Such a great character
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 10:44 pm to
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Gus was not in on it


No, but if my memory serves me correctly, Mike told him what Nacho was up to with the pills.

Gus knew it was happening, but played no part.
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6974 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 10:52 pm to
I get so sucked into the Mike scenes that I completely forget about Saul, and then vice versa. What a show.
Posted by jg8623
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 10:53 pm to
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No, but if my memory serves me correctly, Mike told him what Nacho was up to with the pills.

Gus knew it was happening, but played no part.


I watched all of season 3 over the past week, we did not see Mike tell Gus what Nacho was doing, unless I just blacked out for a minute and missed it. But it’s fairly obvious he was made aware of Nachos plan
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 10:54 pm
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 11:05 pm to
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we did not see Mike tell Gus what Nacho was doing, 


I would have to go back and check but I think I remember when Mike finds out about Nacho's plan he goes and says to Gus there is a situation he needs to know about.

They don't rehash it for us, but we already know what the situation is.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

says to Gus there is a situation he needs to know about.


You’re right, he did say that
Posted by AA77
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 11:16 pm to
Great episode. The Mike parts were outstanding.
Posted by supatigah
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90051 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 11:18 pm to
My favorite show on television right now
Exemplary
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13533 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 11:24 pm to
quote:

The Mike parts were outstanding.


Every Mike or Gus part in any episode is outstanding
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
8248 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 11:30 pm to
So what did everyone think about the cab driver? Was Gene just being paranoid or did the driver recognize him?

I'm kind of leaning towards he recognizes his face, but can't place it.

Hoping we get several more Gene moments.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 11:36 pm to
Thought maybe he recognized him from TV commercials. I guess it's possible Saul made the news as a wanted man in Albuquerque after everything went down.

It's also possible Jimmy is just paranoid and has moments like this all the time.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
8248 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 12:10 am to
There was a clever little moment tonight. The cab driver had an Albuquerque Isotopes logo hanging from his rearview mirror. The baseball game Mike was watching mentioned the Isotopes.

Probably doesn't mean anything, but shows how these guys focus on little details.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16613 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 5:52 am to
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There was a clever little moment tonight. The cab driver had an Albuquerque Isotopes logo hanging from his rearview mirror. The baseball game Mike was watching mentioned the Isotopes.

I don’t think I would call it clever. In the beginning, there needed to be a visual cue to create a moment of anxiety for Gene. That created the need for a moment to educate the audience if they happened to not know who or what the Isotopes are. Among scripted moments considered clever, I give it a 3 out of 10.
Posted by SnoopALoop
Nashville
Member since Apr 2014
4540 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 8:00 am to
The attention to detail and incredible acting is what makes this show stand out above everything else on TV. I really wish they'd start winning awards from this point on like BB did.

The little things that I loved about this episode:

The tension of the cold open and the background song - "We three, we'll wait for you, even till eternity. My echo, my shadow and me." That taxi driver had to make Saul out. I'm sure the intro to season 5 will be the police arriving at Gene's house.

Mike as a safety consultant. That was great.

Gus on-screen time is always GOLD. He is still as intimidating as he was in BB.

Kim is going downhill fast and I fear she's going down a dark path for herself.

Jimmy: "Well, Howard, I guess that's your cross to bear" JESUS!
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
90284 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 8:12 am to
Do we think we'll ever get a full episode(s) with Gene, or are the few minutes of black and white cold opens going to basically be its own standalone story?

From the cold opens we've seen up to this point, we've seen Gene working at the restaurant, piddling around the mall, passing out, hospitalized, freaking out. I wonder if they will just do like Mindhunter did with the BTK cold opens and just have that story kind of by itself.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
8248 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 8:25 am to
quote:

Do we think we'll ever get a full episode(s) with Gene


I think one day we will see a Gene scene transition into color and that is where we will be from that point on.
Posted by CockHolliday
Columbia, SC
Member since Dec 2012
4847 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 8:41 am to
I can't remember noticing it if it happened, but where/how did Mike get Barry's ID to get into Madrigal? Also, what was Mike's point in going there if he had a cush no-show job? Did he just want something productive to do, or maybe he was truly concerned about security issues at his employer's place of business?
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
8248 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 8:52 am to
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I can't remember noticing it if it happened, but where/how did Mike get Barry's ID to get into Madrigal? Also, what was Mike's point in going there if he had a cush no-show job? Did he just want something productive to do, or maybe he was truly concerned about security issues at his employer's place of business?


It appears that he stole the id and sabotaged his car.

His intentions for doing this aren't clear yet. My guess would be that if he is going to be in bed with them he is going to snoop around and make sure it's actually secure for him to do so. Or it could just be he's getting paid so he feels better actually earning his money and also leaving a trail that he actually does work there if anyone looks too closely.
This post was edited on 8/7/18 at 9:04 am
Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
5401 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 8:54 am to
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and also leaving a trail that he actually does work there if anyone looks to closely.


I think it was clearly this.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
14183 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 8:56 am to
quote:

There was a clever little moment tonight. The cab driver had an Albuquerque Isotopes logo hanging from his rearview mirror. The baseball game Mike was watching mentioned the Isotopes.

Probably doesn't mean anything, but shows how these guys focus on little details.


My wife is from there and she tried to call them out for having the Isotopes reference and said that it was the wrong time period. She thought the show was set in the 90s, but it's more like early to mid 2000s right?

The baseball team adopted the Isotopes name in 2003, so I think the show definitely didn't screw up the reference.
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