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re: To Live And Die In LA
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:10 am to UndercoverBryologist
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:10 am to UndercoverBryologist
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He needed to stay in the Michael Mann stable and get bit parts in Heat or The Insider. A more famous Petersen could have played the Russell Crowe role in The Insider.
Oooooooooohhh now that is interesting. The Insider is one of my all time greats, and as good as Crowe is Peterson is a more natural science guy type and could have really killed it as Wigand.
Not sure where he would have fit in Heat though. The casting is pretty perfect in that imo. Honestly he’d probably be best suited as McCulley, but hard to imagine Heat without De Niro and Pacino facing off.
As for his career, it’s weird, he seems to have taken a bunch of TV movie roles after Manhunter. Not sure if that was by choice or if he just wasn’t getting roles for the big screen, but given his ultimate landing on CSI maybe he just preferred TV.
Young Guns II was his only really big Hollywood role in the decade after Manhunter before doing Fear, which is a guilty pleasure of mine lol.
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:20 am to Tiger Voodoo
He was great in Long Gone. HBO movie about a minor league baseball team
Posted on 8/19/22 at 7:27 am to UndercoverBryologist
I still haven't seen this one, though as an 80's kid I probably should've.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 8:08 am to Ace Midnight
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I always forget about it when I want to watch something from that era
It never seemed to be in the heavy rotation of movies that get replayed over and over on HBO etc. Last summer TCM did neo-noir month and played it along with some other really good but some what forgotten 80s thriller type films, Body Heat, Blow Out and Body Double. Movies that fit more a 70s vibe than the 80s I suppose
Posted on 8/19/22 at 8:13 am to Tiger Voodoo
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Not sure where he would have fit in Heat though. The casting is pretty perfect in that imo. Honestly he’d probably be best suited as McCulley, but hard to imagine Heat without De Niro and Pacino facing off.
Funny I was thinking he’d fit the Vincent role better, though more subdued than Pacino
but he said bit role, I could see him as one of the cops Wes Studi or “Buffalo Bill”* or Van Zandt or even Nate (Jon Voight) *Yes I know Ted Levine’s name
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 8:35 am
Posted on 8/19/22 at 11:27 am to UndercoverBryologist
The chase scene
The soundtrack
The scene where he blows across the “sheet”
The soundtrack
The scene where he blows across the “sheet”
Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:05 pm to DR93Berlin
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He was great in Long Gone. HBO movie about a minor league baseball team
And underrated film but he turned down the lead role in Platoon (Charlie Sheen's character) to do this movie. Said he needed the break and didn't feel like going through boot camp and a rough shoot in the Philippines.
You have to wonder what his career trajectory would have been like if he had done Platoon. To Live and Die in LA might be the greatest film debut ever.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:10 pm to H-Town Tiger
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It never seemed to be in the heavy rotation of movies that get replayed over and over on HBO etc.
Yup.
To Live And Die In LA is hardly ever (if ever) included in any rotation of flicks. It's beyond strange considering all the online "movie and TV" channels -- but especially strange given how riveting an Action / Drama flick it was and still is.
No way the epic car chase scene could be made today. No CGI could ever replicate it.
To Live And Die In LA -- what an absolute classic. Too bad it's being buried.
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:16 pm to Liberator
It’s not available on any streaming service and worse looks like the dvd/blu ray is out of print, only copies on Amazon looks like used. If I had known that would have kept in on my DVR last year 
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:22 pm to Jack Ruby
quote:yeah, I thought his silver screen career would take off, but it never happened. It reminds me of the guy(I forget his name right now) that was a star on the police crime drama tv show that thought he would become a big star in Hollywood and failed badly. I think the show was Hill Street Blues, but that guy just didn't have it imo, but William Petersen had it, that charisma.
He must have been very difficult to work with or he got market-corrected by someone...But I don't know who.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:44 pm to UndercoverBryologist
you work for me now...
Posted on 8/19/22 at 1:59 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Where can I watch this?
Posted on 8/19/22 at 2:00 pm to Tigers2010
Im 47 & never seen. Will look for it.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 2:10 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Just dowloaded it from rarbg.to. I have always heard its a great movie. I'd throw some money at it if I could find an outlet but its a hard movie to track down and watch.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 2:18 pm to alpinetiger
I have the dvd of To Live and Die and had Manhunter. Manhunter has disappeared. Both movies are good.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 2:45 pm to AUFANATL
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he turned down the lead role in Platoon (Charlie Sheen's character) to do this movie.
I know no one in Hollywood wanted to do a jungle Vietnam movie ever again after all the Apocalypse Now horror stories, but man, if Peterson went TL&D in LA, Manhunter, and the lead in Platoon over a 2 year stretch, he would have been one of biggest stars in Hollywood.
Its a shame he was never in a big war movie. He would have an incredible casting as either a Sgt Elias type or also as a Sgt Barnes type. That's the thing with Peterson, he could play both a good guy or a bad guy with equal intensity and charisma.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 3:10 pm to Jack Ruby
quote:War movies were all over cinema after Apocalypse Now, so I would disagree with that point. Manhunter was a great film. Great movie. Petersen just never had that one base clearing home run in his career. He deserved it IMO.
I know no one in Hollywood wanted to do a jungle Vietnam movie ever again after all the Apocalypse Now horror stories, but man, if Peterson went TL&D in LA, Manhunter, and the lead in Platoon over a 2 year stretch, he would have been one of biggest stars in Hollywood.
Its a shame he was never in a big war movie. He would have an incredible casting as either a Sgt Elias type or also as a Sgt Barnes type. That's the thing with Peterson, he could play both a good guy or a bad guy with equal intensity and charisma.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 3:22 pm to H-Town Tiger
80's had some dark/noir stuff too; it just gets lost in all the schlock. In fact, the best of the decade was often from that genre:
Thief
Angel Heart
The Postman Always Rings Twice
House Of Games
Blue Velvet
At Close Range (another hard to find gem)
Witness
Blade Runner
Scarface
Sea Of Love
Jagged Edge
Body Double
Blood Simple
52 Pick Up
Atlantic City (another hard to find gem)
The Border
I would put those up against any other decade's noir.
Thief
Angel Heart
The Postman Always Rings Twice
House Of Games
Blue Velvet
At Close Range (another hard to find gem)
Witness
Blade Runner
Scarface
Sea Of Love
Jagged Edge
Body Double
Blood Simple
52 Pick Up
Atlantic City (another hard to find gem)
The Border
I would put those up against any other decade's noir.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 4:14 pm to rebelrouser
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Thief
Michael Mann's theatrical directorial debut
William Petersen's on screen debut. Very brief as a bartender.
Also Dennis Farina's debut, and was still a Chicago cop, but had a larger role.
Posted on 8/19/22 at 8:14 pm to UndercoverBryologist
The first time I saw Willem Dafoe in a movie.
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