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re: Tin Cup: Great movie with an awful ending? (Obviously Spoilers)
Posted on 8/29/13 at 10:27 am to Peazey
Posted on 8/29/13 at 10:27 am to Peazey
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Roy did something spectacular outside the rules of the game.
Just think back to the river story and the river scene.
Roy won. He proved he could beat his nemesis on the golf course, got the girl, and got glory. Winning the tournament would have taken away the last one, possible the middle one. Molly wanted someone that wasn't afraid to go for it.
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Posted on 8/29/13 at 10:32 am to CaptainsWafer
The real problem is that the CBS crew was covering the Open.
Where was Johnny Miller?
Where was Johnny Miller?
Posted on 8/29/13 at 11:07 am to elprez00
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Molly wanted someone that wasn't afraid to go for it.
Yep. "When a defining moment comes along you define the moment or the moment defines you" is what he was always about. Deep in his heart he knew he could make that shot and everything else be damned. There was nothing else more important at that instant (to him) than making that shot that he knew he had in him.
Posted on 8/29/13 at 11:28 am to htownjeep
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There was nothing else more important at that instant (to him) than making that shot that he knew he had in him.
Thank you. I never realized the ending to this movie was ever misunderstood.
Posted on 8/29/13 at 11:36 am to Wild Thang
Johnny Miller was playing the OPEN. he has a cameo when Costner shanks one on the practice range Johnny comes over to give him his ball and tells him to him em straight. 
Posted on 8/29/13 at 11:40 am to elprez00
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Thank you. I never realized the ending to this movie was ever misunderstood.
Sarcasm? I didn't know it was ever misunderstood either. But apparently it has been.
Posted on 8/29/13 at 12:47 pm to Peazey
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Without that ending, Tin Cup is not a great movie. It becomes pretty forgettable. The entire point is this maverick who can't help to go for it all even if it isn't in his best interest. And for once, with this ending, it doesn't destroy him because while he fricked up that tournament, he still uses his quintessential characteristic to establish a legendary name for himself in the golf community.
It's a glorification of the go big or go home mentality that many of us Americans are so fond of.
pretty much this
he had to prove he could hit that shot, that's all he cared about at that point
That's a long 3 wood with persimmon though, amirite?!
Posted on 8/29/13 at 12:56 pm to Shankopotomus
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That's a long 3 wood with persimmon though, amirite?!
Somewhere at my parents house are my fathers Persimmon 1 and 3 woods. I keep forgetting to get up in the attic and look for them when I'm home.
I learned to play on a cut down 1 and 3 MacGreggor Persimmon.
Posted on 8/29/13 at 1:42 pm to Tiger1242
They'll remember his 12 for ever! Oh, he stuck it to Venturi too!
Posted on 8/29/13 at 3:25 pm to Trauma14
OP might misunderstand the main character of a movie more than anyone ever has. He knew he could hit that shot, he hadnt yet, and by god he was going to prove, to himself and everyone else. In that moment he didnt give two shits about the tournament.
Posted on 8/29/13 at 3:48 pm to beaverfever
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See that's what I didn't like about the ending. They acted like he did something to be celebrated. The ending showed that he once again mentally failed in a big moment. It was tragic.
That's exactly the point though. It's supposed to be in your face stupid...Roy was so stubborn that he kept hitting the ball into the water over and over because HE KNEW he could make the shot and wanted to prove himself right. And he did, at the cost of the tournament.
Also, he was 100% playing to win the trophy, he just let that eventually fall to second once his stubbornness kicked in on that last shot. To say he wasn't playing to win is ridiculous...that's exactly what he was doing.
Watch the last ten minutes here.
After he holes out, Romeo says "Well, boss...we blew that one." And Roy says "I didn't come here to play for no second, Romeo." To which Romeo says "And Simms will always be second.."
Roy then says to himself "I just gave away the US Open" and he's disappointed, and repeats it to Molly when she walks up and says "..the one time in my life I know the safe play is to hit the layup and I still couldn't make myself do it.... ...My whole career, my whole life on the line, and I just...I just made a 12 on the last hole of the US Open." That's when Molly freaks the frick out and is like "No one is gonna remember the Open five years from now...who won, who lost, but they're gonna remember your twelve. My God, Roy...it was immortal."
So he's CLEARLY upset that he couldn't beat his own stubbornness and let it cost him the US Open. The argument that he wasn't playing to win is inadmissable IMO. And the fact that he was so stubborn and had to prove himself right (because he knew he had that shot in him) is why the ending is so awesome. Well, that and because despite his throwing away the Open championship, he still accomplished "the greatest twelve ever" and would be memorized forever.
This post was edited on 8/29/13 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 8/29/13 at 3:58 pm to CaptainsWafer
quote:yea i mean he did specifically tell his girl he is going to win the US Open.
I don't think the ending was terrible, but what exactly was he playing for if it wasn't to win? To beat David Simms, who was leading?
Maybe after he put two in the water he wasn't playing to win, but he certainly was before
Posted on 8/29/13 at 4:32 pm to CarRamrod
Question: Does Roy eventually listen to Romeo and layup if his girl doesn't tell him to go for it? I think it's possible.
Posted on 8/29/13 at 4:50 pm to CocomoLSU
My main contention is that the movie makes you think Roy should actually be proud at the end. But why?
Posted on 8/29/13 at 4:55 pm to htownjeep
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"When a defining moment comes along you define the moment or the moment defines you"
Then Romeo follows that up with one of the best lines of the movie. "That was a defining moment alright, and the definition was shite."
Posted on 8/29/13 at 10:31 pm to Tiger1242
You suck.
His decision makes the movie. It would have blown the whole movie if he sacrificed his character to win. He would have become his rival.
His decision makes the movie. It would have blown the whole movie if he sacrificed his character to win. He would have become his rival.
Posted on 8/29/13 at 10:32 pm to Tiger1242
quote:No
Tin Cup: Great movie
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