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re: The OFFICIAL Rogue One: A Star Wars Story ***SPOILERS*** Thread

Posted on 12/19/16 at 12:29 am to
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 12:29 am to
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Cranston's screen time in Edwards' other film, Godzilla


None of them were the focus of the movie. They were nothing more than plot devices.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 12:39 am to
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Plus she would say, "I am Bail Organa's daughter" and Obi would think, hmm Bail's daughter, about 19, and 19 years ago he took Anakin's daughter.
He would get it quickly.

I didn't think of that until after i typed it out last post.

This is one of the plot holes from the OT to the prequels. Obi Wan should know about Leia, but in Empire Strikes back, Obi Wan says "That boy is our last hope" and Yoda says "No, there is another"

I always took that as Obi Wan not knowing about Leia
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 1:02 am to
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The map bugs me. Many times it was mentioned that tatooine was too far away for the empire to really care about it. Yet the damn Library of Empire information was the next system over?



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And the Death Star was built one star system over from that.
I haven't had a chance to see this film yet, but some of that actually fits the overall story.

In Ep 2 (AOTC), Tatooine is out in the middle of nowhere, but actually pretty close to where the separatists were building the droid army (and that's where the plans for the death star were). Since this was a Sith project more than a Republic/Empire one (the Senate would have opposed it), it makes sense that it was done away from the central area.

Perhaps the Library is also falling into that. Coruscant might be the seat of power, but it also might have had too many Jedi sympathizers and loyalists to the Republic to be a good location for Palpatine.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:03 am to
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I always took that as Obi Wan not knowing about Leia


Me too. Could have meant that he didn't believe in Leia's power.
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:13 am to
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in the EU they had ships that could pull ships out of hyperspace,


I hate too nerd out too badly but I guess that's what this thread is for:

Those ships are canon now. There was one on Rebels.
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:07 am to
My thoughts, which won't add much to the conversation:

- a little slow in the beginning but it picks up big time and the last act is some of the best Star Wars in existence.

- not a perfect movie, but still very good and a darker version of the series we all love.

- if you didn't enjoy TFA, I think you'll enjoy this movie. If you did enjoy TFA, I think you'll enjoy this movie. For the record, I enjoyed TFA because it entertained me.

- Darth Vader was so awesome. The last scene where he just wrecks shop should give all a nerdgasm. That said, James Earl Jones is 90 and his voice shows. Vader shouldn't be engaging in long conversation.

- I didn't get attached to any of the characters, mostly because we all know the outcome. The writers could have done a better job of making the characters more sympathetic but it didn't ruin the movie for me.

- No scroll in the beginning but that's okay. It's not a main episode of the story.

- the CGI of Peter Cushing and Carrie Fisher was quite spectacular.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:17 am to
quote:


This is one of the plot holes from the OT to the prequels. Obi Wan should know about Leia, but in Empire Strikes back, Obi Wan says "That boy is our last hope" and Yoda says "No, there is another"

I always took that as Obi Wan not knowing about Leia


One of Lucas biggest mistakes. I think he tried another twist, similar to the Vader reveal, but this one just felt odd and out of place.
Posted by The Egg
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:20 am to
so uhhh...anyone else kinda fall asleep in the middle of the movie?
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:21 am to
So uhhh, nope
Posted by The Egg
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:24 am to
bruh that shite just kinda dragged in the middle
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:27 am to
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One of Lucas biggest mistakes. I think he tried another twist, similar to the Vader reveal, but this one just felt odd and out of place.

The thing is, all he had to do was not make Obi-Wan present for their birth and it's problem solved
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:28 am to
quote:

so uhhh...anyone else kinda fall asleep in the middle of the movie?

Nah
Posted by Piece
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:48 am to
But if Obi-Wan isn't there for the birth who would have made the great suggestion to "hide" Luke with Darth Vader's only surviving family?
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 11:01 am to
More Map Goodness - This time with Google Maps functionality!

It's crazy to see how close Geonosis and Tatooine are. Your point about the DS plans on the Geonosis base are dead on, however.

Why the Empire chose to have such vital info out a far as Scarif is a mystery, however. All those docs would be much better served closer in toward the Core. It'd definitely be much more defensible.

ETA - If you note the location of Dantooine, you'll see that Leia was trying to get them in the opposite direction from Alderaan and Yavin IV.
This post was edited on 12/19/16 at 11:05 am
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 11:42 am to
Don't know if this has been discussed, but weren't Vader's robotic limbs fused into his body? Seems like that was what all the pain was about on the operating table. Maybe he has some sockets or something where he can take them off, but it just seemed weird seeing him in the tank like that. Film was great. Score was weak. CGI didn't bother me at all.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 12:02 pm to
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Why the Empire chose to have such vital info out a far as Scarif is a mystery, however. All those docs would be much better served closer in toward the Core. It'd definitely be much more defensible.


Well, if we want to use the map for accuracy, though I have some issues with it, Scarif is not far from Geonosis, which is where they originally had the plans and built it. They did it out there to hide everything from the Jedi and the Republic. That made sense. The Scarif location makes absolutely no sense to me. I started looking through it, but couldn't find a great source for where they got the location for it.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 12:04 pm to
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The map bugs me. Many times it was mentioned that tatooine was too far away for the empire to really care about it. Yet the damn Library of Empire information was the next system over?


I don't like that.


Same.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

quote:
The map bugs me. Many times it was mentioned that tatooine was too far away for the empire to really care about it. Yet the damn Library of Empire information was the next system over?


I don't like that.


Same.





1. Ya'll are acting like this is some official map

2. Who gives a frick? It is make believe!
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 12:08 pm to
1. If people are going to use it as reference for points they are making, it is open to criticism.

2. I'll fight you.
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 12:22 pm to
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