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re: The official Interstellar thread (spoilers)
Posted on 11/8/14 at 11:15 am to SwaggerCopter
Posted on 11/8/14 at 11:15 am to SwaggerCopter
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The only time I noticed the score was when I was amped up by the docking scene. And what I thought at the time was, "I can't wait to get this on Spotify."
That's the only time I noticed it as well and thought the exact same thing.
This post was edited on 11/8/14 at 11:16 am
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Posted on 11/8/14 at 11:20 am to hashtag
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If I notice a score, then it is distracting.
Um....okay....
Posted on 11/8/14 at 11:30 am to hashtag
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My problem with the score was that I noticed it.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 11:48 am to U R TIGA B8
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I feel like some people in this thread went into the movie wanting to pick it apart and dislike it.
Yep, and I feel that is why the critics have given it an average grade. It's become cool to try and take Nolan down a notch.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 11:52 am to theunknownknight
quote:That was by far the worst aspect of the movie. They should have left the ghost part out and especially the explanation for it. Movie should have ended before he went into the black hole. It should have ended with him headed back to Earth and her headed to the 3rd planet. It got beyond stupid with him behind the books. How do you jump into a black hole that would destroy you, into a time chamber that lets you move back and forth? Unspeakably stupid.
So I was thinking...time travel was invented by us in the future to save ourselves.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 11:57 am to arcalades
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How do you jump into a black hole that would destroy you
Prove it
Posted on 11/8/14 at 11:58 am to arcalades
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How do you jump into a black hole that would destroy you
We don't know what a black hole will do to us beyond the event horizon.
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into a time chamber that lets you move back and forth? Unspeakably stupid.
That is science fiction my friend.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 11:58 am to arktiger28
quote:Maybe. But I think critics have been fair. I'd give the movie a 7.5/10. Good, with some great moments, but not great.
Yep, and I feel that is why the critics have given it an average grade. It's become cool to try and take Nolan down a notch.
I can see some critics reasonably giving it, say, 2.5/4 stars. Much worse than that, and they're probably getting into troll territory - but I don't see many being that critical.
This post was edited on 11/8/14 at 11:59 am
Posted on 11/8/14 at 12:03 pm to arcalades
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It got beyond stupid with him behind the books. How do you jump into a black hole that would destroy you, into a time chamber that lets you move back and forth? Unspeakably stupid.
Actually, Neil DeGrasse Tyson says that that was completely possible, so it's not as dumb as you think: LINK
I guess you thought 2001 was stupid because of the floating fetus too, right?
Posted on 11/8/14 at 12:04 pm to arcalades
quote:Based on what, eye-witness testimony of black hole destructiveness? Physicist data re: what a black hole is and what happens when something enters it?
How do you jump into a black hole that would destroy you
quote:Welcome to science fiction?
into a time chamber that lets you move back and forth?
Posted on 11/8/14 at 12:34 pm to arcalades
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unspeakably stupid
:kige:
Posted on 11/8/14 at 12:40 pm to Tiger Ryno
Quit acting like you've seen it, you tard
Posted on 11/8/14 at 12:48 pm to theunknownknight
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So I was thinking...time travel was invented by us in the future to save ourselves.
There isn't any time travel in the film - that was the point of the third act. Dimensionally, time isn't linear - there is no start, middle, and end. There isn't a beginning or a conclusion. There isn't a causal chain of events, which precludes any deterministic realities. The tesseract was constructed to allow Cooper to comprehensibly perceive a five dimensional reality in which time is a physical, spatial coordinate, with all coordinates existing concurrently.
This post was edited on 11/8/14 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 11/8/14 at 1:02 pm to OMLandshark
Lots of Thoughts with some spoilers:
It was a very interesting movie and certainly worth seeing but an uneven movie.
I thought that the acting was great across the board with the exception of Anne Hathaway whom I thought was awful. Sure, she was supposed to be kinda unlikable but she came across as someone who did not belong on the mission. I was cringing about her speech of the dimensions of love. With all of the psych tests they give to astronauts, I also feel like she would have been ruled out. But everyone else was really good.
The science was mixed. They explained some stuff very well (wormholes) that have been explained well in movies for 20 years. I don't see many people coming out with a greater understanding of relativity or black holes though.I don't remember exactly how they described black holes but I remember thinking it was a subpar explanation. Also, I don't think they even tried to describe relativity which was important to the movie. I feel like that might have been on purpose because the movie might have been counter to some of those points but I see a lot of people WTFing.
FWIW, the best example of relativity I've ever heard was two kids are on the bed of an 18 wheeler moving down the highway playing catch. To them, the ball is moving 50 mph when thrown. To a pedestrian watching, the ball is going a lot faster.
The story was so-so. There were plenty of WTFs from the story and some unnecessary parts. I really felt that Matt Damon showing up was a huge distraction. I understand why they didn't list him as being in it, but when he actually does show up, it pulls you out of the story.
The whole thing where Caine leaving stuff out was completely unbelievable. This is a multi-billion dollar mission. They would have planned everything out to the second. Caine would know that leaving information out could probably doom the mission. And I'm sure they could have found out plenty of people who were willing to go on a one way trip. Right now, NASA has over 78,000 applicants to go on a one way mission to Mars and that isn't even for a world saving mission.
There were some great moments and some not great moments. I'll have more to add later but those were my base thoughts.
It was a very interesting movie and certainly worth seeing but an uneven movie.
I thought that the acting was great across the board with the exception of Anne Hathaway whom I thought was awful. Sure, she was supposed to be kinda unlikable but she came across as someone who did not belong on the mission. I was cringing about her speech of the dimensions of love. With all of the psych tests they give to astronauts, I also feel like she would have been ruled out. But everyone else was really good.
The science was mixed. They explained some stuff very well (wormholes) that have been explained well in movies for 20 years. I don't see many people coming out with a greater understanding of relativity or black holes though.I don't remember exactly how they described black holes but I remember thinking it was a subpar explanation. Also, I don't think they even tried to describe relativity which was important to the movie. I feel like that might have been on purpose because the movie might have been counter to some of those points but I see a lot of people WTFing.
FWIW, the best example of relativity I've ever heard was two kids are on the bed of an 18 wheeler moving down the highway playing catch. To them, the ball is moving 50 mph when thrown. To a pedestrian watching, the ball is going a lot faster.
The story was so-so. There were plenty of WTFs from the story and some unnecessary parts. I really felt that Matt Damon showing up was a huge distraction. I understand why they didn't list him as being in it, but when he actually does show up, it pulls you out of the story.
The whole thing where Caine leaving stuff out was completely unbelievable. This is a multi-billion dollar mission. They would have planned everything out to the second. Caine would know that leaving information out could probably doom the mission. And I'm sure they could have found out plenty of people who were willing to go on a one way trip. Right now, NASA has over 78,000 applicants to go on a one way mission to Mars and that isn't even for a world saving mission.
There were some great moments and some not great moments. I'll have more to add later but those were my base thoughts.
This post was edited on 11/8/14 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 11/8/14 at 1:11 pm to athenslife101
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Right now, NASA has over 78,000 applicants to go on a one way mission to Mars and that isn't even for a world saving mission.
The lie was not for people heading out on the mission.
The purpose of the lie was to convince people to continue to work on the mission, when they had no chance at survival themselves.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 1:13 pm to UltimaParadox
I can see that. Then why didn't he tell just them? I feel like it would have fundamentally changed their strategy.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 1:14 pm to athenslife101
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Sure, she was supposed to be kinda unlikable but she came across as someone who did not belong on the mission.
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The whole thing where Caine leaving stuff out was completely unbelievable. This is a multi-billion dollar mission. They would have planned everything out to the second. Caine would know that leaving information out could probably doom the mission. And I'm sure they could have found out plenty of people who were willing to go on a one way trip. Right now, NASA has over 78,000 applicants to go on a one way mission to Mars and that isn't even for a world saving mission.
Keep in mind there were only a few million people left on the planet by this point. Donald made a reference to the "old times" early in the film when there used to be "6 billion people" on Earth, and he said this as if it were an astonishing figure, implying that the current population was likely a fraction of what it used to be.
NASA was underground and was extinct to the majority of individuals. It's not as if they had a large selection of people from which to choose for the mission, as was evidenced by Brand's delight when Cooper discovered the facility.
Brand's daughter was an astrobiologist and probably possessed the most vitally important knowledge for their mission.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 1:25 pm to UltimaParadox
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The lie was not for people heading out on the mission.
It was for them as well.
Cooper wouldn't have left at all if there was zero chance of being able to save his children. Brand wouldn't have left if she knew she was never going to see her father again.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 1:40 pm to athenslife101
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With all of the psych tests they give to astronauts, I also feel like she would have been ruled out. But everyone else was really good.
Actually, this does make sense, and it was purposeful to make her Brand's daughter: he made sure she was on the mission in order to save her from death and cement his and her legacy with the future of mankind on the planet they find.
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The whole thing where Caine leaving stuff out was completely unbelievable. This is a multi-billion dollar mission. They would have planned everything out to the second. Caine would know that leaving information out could probably doom the mission.
Caine telling everyone that would have without question doomed the mission. The only people I think that knew were him and Damon, and they kept the truth from everyone else. I don't think anyone else would have gone, and definitely not Hathaway and without question not Cooper. Plus with Embryo Space Colonization, tons of ethical questions are brought up on whether it should be done at all in the first place. No telling what the frick is going to happen to the first generation who don't have parents, and the Pandora's Box you open with subsequent generations.
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And I'm sure they could have found out plenty of people who were willing to go on a one way trip. Right now, NASA has over 78,000 applicants to go on a one way mission to Mars and that isn't even for a world saving mission.
But that wasn't a "saving the world" mission. That is a white flag mission, and dealing with the worst case scenario. You couldn't getting thousands on the brink of starvation on board with that plan.
This post was edited on 11/8/14 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 11/8/14 at 1:41 pm to athenslife101
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Then why didn't he tell just them?
He says why in the movie. People would have been selfish, thinking of themselves rather than of mankind.
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