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re: The official Interstellar thread (spoilers)
Posted on 11/8/14 at 7:25 am to AlxTgr
Posted on 11/8/14 at 7:25 am to AlxTgr
My thoughts.
It's a pretty good movie I'll probably never watch again.
The great: Matthew M. and the little girl who played his daughter. The visuals.
The decent: the plot. It was somewhat original yet very predictable and (as usual with Nolan) somewhat convoluted.
The bad: Matt Damon was terrible in this movie. His character was a complete waste of time. Cooper's son was a complete waste of time thereby making Casey Affleck a waste of time. Many times we lol'ed at some of the hokey/forced dialog. The editing was horrible but that's to be expected with Nolan.
The HORRIBLE: I can't believe I am saying this but Zimmer's score SUCKED. It distracted me and didn't fit with more of the emotional scenes. It was like trying to watch a funeral at a planetarium.
Anne Hathaway's haircut: This has it's own scale. Hathaway's hairstyle in this movie was a tribute to NAMBLA and it excelled at that as it made her TRULY look like a 12 year old boy.
At the end of the day, the movie wasn't really a sci-fi movie at all. Interstellar was a great father/daughter drama dressed up in 2001's sci-fi pajamas.
With all that said this was a nice bounce back from the TDKR train wreck. Solid 72/100.
It's a pretty good movie I'll probably never watch again.
The great: Matthew M. and the little girl who played his daughter. The visuals.
The decent: the plot. It was somewhat original yet very predictable and (as usual with Nolan) somewhat convoluted.
The bad: Matt Damon was terrible in this movie. His character was a complete waste of time. Cooper's son was a complete waste of time thereby making Casey Affleck a waste of time. Many times we lol'ed at some of the hokey/forced dialog. The editing was horrible but that's to be expected with Nolan.
The HORRIBLE: I can't believe I am saying this but Zimmer's score SUCKED. It distracted me and didn't fit with more of the emotional scenes. It was like trying to watch a funeral at a planetarium.
Anne Hathaway's haircut: This has it's own scale. Hathaway's hairstyle in this movie was a tribute to NAMBLA and it excelled at that as it made her TRULY look like a 12 year old boy.
At the end of the day, the movie wasn't really a sci-fi movie at all. Interstellar was a great father/daughter drama dressed up in 2001's sci-fi pajamas.
With all that said this was a nice bounce back from the TDKR train wreck. Solid 72/100.
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Posted on 11/8/14 at 7:25 am to theunknownknight
Epic. Movie
Posted on 11/8/14 at 7:48 am to theunknownknight
Spot on.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 8:04 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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Like the top in Inception, or the paradox of how did the future human race survive (and send a wormhole) to be able to help itself survive, when it had no luxury in this film, or The Prestige.
It's driving me crazy!
Posted on 11/8/14 at 8:07 am to AlxTgr
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In other words, it's just something you say that has no real meaning at all but makes you feel like some sort of movie maven.
In other words, I could go on a 9 page rant on why this film is ambitious, but I don't feel like entertaining your stupidity.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 8:13 am to OMLandshark
So I was thinking...time travel was invented by us in the future to save ourselves.
Other than the plethora of obvious questions that arise from that, one I could ask that would stay in the context of the movie is this: why didn't we place the wormhole by the moon instead of way out by Saturn? I guess humanity never evolved past trolling.
Other than the plethora of obvious questions that arise from that, one I could ask that would stay in the context of the movie is this: why didn't we place the wormhole by the moon instead of way out by Saturn? I guess humanity never evolved past trolling.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 8:14 am to greenwave
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Has an Avatar feeling IMO.
Other than the fact that it's sci fi and Earth is apparently ruined, what does this movie have in common with Avatar? This movie speaks much more highly of the human condition, since Cameron seems to have the lowest possible opinion of humanity at large in that movie.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 8:17 am to devils1854
quote:I agree with this, in part. There were 2 or 3 truly moving scenes, but there were many others that were meant to be moving but were not. In those cases, I think it's fair to attribute the lack of true emotion to the characters' unconvincingness. The one moment where emotion is undeniably real IMO, and palpable by the audience, is when Cooper sees the video messages of his grown-up children.
it forgets to give you any emotional attachment to any of the characters. McConaughey cries maybe a half a dozen times throughout the film, but I really do not care because once again, Nolan only brushes with broad strokes, and forgets small details, like tying you into the characters.
quote:The acting was fine. Good by all; no one was exceptionally good or exceptionally bad. I disagree when you say the dialogue was awful. It wasn't great, but it definitely had it's moments.
There are tons of stars in the movie, but the acting is wooden, and the dialogue is simply awful.
quote:Um, that is just dumb.
Even the staple of Nolan movies, cinematography, wasnt up to par.
quote:Also dumb. Though imperfect, this is a really good movie.
Just an overall terrible movie.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 8:18 am to devils1854
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This film was exactly what I expected it to be. A huge dumpster fire.
Glad to see you gave this movie a chance from the start. It's always wonderful walking into a movie wanting to light it on fire.
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yet it forgets to give you any emotional attachment to any of the characters. McConaughey cries maybe a half a dozen times throughout the film, but I really do not care because once again, Nolan only brushes with broad strokes, and forgets small details, like tying you into the characters.
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I honestly expect a whole lot more from a Nolan product.
No you didn't. You just said you expected it to be a dumpster fire.
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Just an overall terrible movie. I almost fell asleep at least twice, and I almost walked out at least a half a dozen times.
Sure ya did. I hope you aren't older than 15.
This post was edited on 11/8/14 at 8:21 am
Posted on 11/8/14 at 8:20 am to devils1854
quote:I'm with you so far.
Memento is one of the best movies of the century. I loved Inception, and I think that Batman Begins is one of the two or three best comic movies of all times. I just think that Nolan has his faults
quote:. . . Aaaaand, then you lost me.
and shouldnt be mentioned anywhere with the top tier directors in Hollywood
Posted on 11/8/14 at 8:26 am to theunknownknight
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Other than the plethora of obvious questions that arise from that, one I could ask that would stay in the context of the movie is this: why didn't we place the wormhole by the moon instead of way out by Saturn? I guess humanity never evolved past trolling.
Because it makes for a much better shot
, and I'm guessing an amateur astronomer could probably see it, freaking out the entire population. Not to mention a subtle reference to 2001 going out to Jupiter, but this time Saturn.Posted on 11/8/14 at 8:28 am to Teddy Ruxpin
quote:I completely agree. I was thinking the same thing last night. I remember watching Inception for the first time, and - like Interstellar - having multiple questions afterwards. But, little by little, as I discussed it with people, and as I watched the movies again, all my questions were ultimately answered. It's amazing how coherent and complete Nolan's stories are. To take such complex ideas and write such coherent stories - that can be understood completely by general audiences - is just incredible. Even if you don't get everything the first time (which I didn't, in either case), everything you need is there; it just may take another viewing or a discussion with friends to get it.
What I like about Nolan films is that the unanswered question is purposely there. It could be because they don't have a good way to write a conclusion for the "problem," or its on purpose, but we all agree what the "issue" is essentially.
Like the top in Inception, or the paradox of how did the future human race survive (and send a wormhole) to be able to help itself survive, when it had no luxury in this film, or The Prestige.
Compare this to a movie like Prometheus (ya I fricking went there*) where it is painfully obvious the audience has a billion questions because the writing is atrocious and leaves us in a sea of stupidity by throwing out "whoa, what was that?" for no real reason at all.
NolanPosted on 11/8/14 at 8:35 am to theunknownknight
quote:Admittedly, I didn't think it was Zimmer's best work.
The HORRIBLE: I can't believe I am saying this but Zimmer's score SUCKED. It distracted me and didn't fit with more of the emotional scenes.
BUT. . . At a key moment - the epic 20+ (at least!) minute climax, beginning with the Damon and brother-sister fight scenes and ending with the EPIC docking scene - the score was absolutely brilliant. That entire scene was amazing. I agree that Damon's character seems like a waste of time, but I think he was necessary (and worth it!) to set up the circumstances for that docking scene.
The score was far from horrible.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:18 am to GeauxTigers2020
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Some of the dialogue was forced/cheesy.
If that's true for a lot of people, then, maybe the script could have been tweaked and improved to make the dialogue more realistic.
Or perhaps the "Love Conquers and Transcends All" theme should have been modified. That theme idea needn't be spoken with words at all in the script, it could simply have been implied. That might have allowed some minutes to come off of the film AND discarded a theme presentation that impresses some as cheesy.
This post was edited on 11/8/14 at 9:19 am
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:33 am to Champagne
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In other words, I could go on a 9 page rant on why this film is ambitious, but I don't feel like entertaining your stupidity.
The 9 page rant could very well begin with the dawn of movie-making when the first films around were of daily events such as "Arrival of a Train at a Station" (1895).
It was ambitious for anyone to think that motion picture film could be used to tell a story in any manner beyond simply filming a play acted on a stage, but, it was done by ambitious thinkers.
Here's a link to a 1902 motion picture by Melies. It's the story of men on Earth planning and executing a rocket ship landing on the Moon.
This is a great example of very early ambitious film-making. It's probably one reel of film because it clocks in at almost 11 minutes.
LINK
So, IMHO, film-makers who try to tackle outlandish ideas and stories should be applauded. The film medium was at first considered to be for the poor unwashed masses who physically stunk up the film theater -- trashy people.
The well-to-do did not see "movies" they went to plays and the opera.
That's certainly changed. Today film actors and directors are influential socialites who dine at State Dinners with the President of the USA.
How did that happen? Ambition.
This post was edited on 11/8/14 at 9:45 am
Posted on 11/8/14 at 9:52 am to Patrick_Bateman
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The score was far from horrible.
As a standalone I agree.
But I hold Zimmer to a WAY higher standard than anyone else not named James Horner.
The dude gets a lot of hate but he's in a league of his own...and that score was "meh" and frankly annoying.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 10:19 am to theunknownknight
The score grew on me as the movie went along. I expected it to drag in parts, be a little cheesy and have some theoretical plot holes. For what I expected, it was a good movie. Not spectacular. But good. Probably a B+.
This post was edited on 11/8/14 at 10:21 am
Posted on 11/8/14 at 10:29 am to devils1854
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devils1854
Having your own opinion is wonderful and everything, but...
I feel like some people in this thread went into the movie wanting to pick it apart and dislike it. I don't understand why some of you went to see this if you did not expect much and had your mind made up already. Does not make sense.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 11:05 am to theunknownknight
My problem with the score was that I noticed it. I'm not a soundtrack nerd like theunknownknight. If I notice a score, then it is distracting. It was only like that during certain parts. But, enough for me to notice.
I loved the movie though. It was nearly perfect, IMO. Of course, I watch movies for entertainment, not to get perfect storylines, provable science, and irrefutable logic.
I loved the movie though. It was nearly perfect, IMO. Of course, I watch movies for entertainment, not to get perfect storylines, provable science, and irrefutable logic.
Posted on 11/8/14 at 11:09 am to hashtag
The only time I noticed the score was when I was amped up by the docking scene. And what I thought at the time was, "I can't wait to get this on Spotify."
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