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re: The Official DragonBall Thread....est 2012

Posted on 8/27/17 at 10:30 pm to
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 8/27/17 at 10:30 pm to
Power levels are bullshite...

and how many times is Goku going to let his guard down and refuse to go super saiyan blue to get out of the bind.

What was that, his fifth time since the TOP started?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 12:22 am to
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I've only seen like 2 or 3 episodes of the original Dragon Ball, but after last night I think I'm going to go back and watch the episodes.


That's what I've been doing recently. I had never seen them before but people kept on saying again and again how good Dragon Ball was. Here's a good link to use that has high quality Dragon Ball episodes. Its the dubbed version at least.


LINK
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 8/28/17 at 12:48 am to
Just watched the latest DBS dubbed version. It looks like they're taking the series back to the Dragon Ball roots with the humor and light-heartedness of everything.


Watching Dragon Ball and now seeing DBS really makes one realize how serious DBZ got over the years. I still like DBZ immensely, but it was definitely a much different series from Dragon Ball and Super (so far at least for the dubbed series).
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:12 pm to
Really funny scene from the latest Dubbed DBS

LINK

Reminds me of some previous Piccolo run-ins with Bulma and Chi-Chi.


Chi-Chi makes Goku and Piccolo Drive


Chi-Chi and Bulma get mad at Piccolo Fusion Saga

Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:42 pm to
Without reveling too much, I'm just going to say that a full, 60 minute special with a REALLY big fight is coming in early October.

Spoilers are out there and so are some new images that look incredible. It should awesome.
Posted by Poxxxx says GFR
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Posted on 8/30/17 at 2:08 am to
Not really sure if spoilers matter anymore in this thread
Posted by Supravol22
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Posted on 8/30/17 at 6:51 am to
I'm thinking the "real" enemy is revealed after the 1 hour special.
Posted by Poxxxx says GFR
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Posted on 8/30/17 at 1:57 pm to
When Goku's new form was leaked, it said something terrible is going to happen. I'm definitely thinking outside influence or corrupt angels.
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:37 am to
Yeeesh... Last night's episode was rough...

I know they had to get rid of Tien, but the universe 2 guys were possibly the laziest and worst characters I've very seen in a dragon ball episode.

It does feel though that next week begins the ramp up to the big one hr fight. Frost is doing soemthing and it looks like Roshi might actually die.

Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:04 pm to
Does anyone else just really hate the omni king's character?

From what I can infer, he is supposed to be a representation of the target audience. So he kind of proves that the show is now aimed for little kids and not the old fans.

That's so cool! Who cares about the rules if it is cool! This is new so its cool! I forgot how to count to five...
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:28 pm to
OK so going by the last episode:

44 fighters have been eliminated on-screen.
So, there are 36 fighters left.

U7 has 8 fighters left
U6 has 8 fighters left
U3 has 7 fighters left
U2 has 6 fighters left
U4 has 4 fighters left
U11 has 3 fighters left

Of the 44 fighters eliminated:
U7 has eliminated 29
U6 has eliminated 11
U2 has eliminated 3
U9 had eliminated 1

What the frick are the other universes doing?
Posted by freeagent
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:46 pm to
Yes I think the Omni king is a retarded character.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

Does anyone else just really hate the omni king's character?

From what I can infer, he is supposed to be a representation of the target audience. So he kind of proves that the show is now aimed for little kids and not the old fans.

That's so cool! Who cares about the rules if it is cool! This is new so its cool! I forgot how to count to five...



I believe his characterization is meant to infer that he's "like a child", which contradicts the massive amount of power he wields. It might be a way to simply say the universe is random and mighty as if a child were simply playing games with the rest of us. There's little rhyme or reason to the workings of all things, and this is a way to explain the randomness of it all.

I think they clearly know who their target audience is, but in addition to what I said above the Omni King's likeness also may likely have roots in some Japanese culture/folklore if I had to make a guess at why Zen-Oh is depicted the way he is.

A parallel to think about is Buddha, Buddha is a fat, peaceful, and happy guy. Not at all the type you would consider powerful, mind-altering and strong, yet he still wields a vast amount of influence and power.

This actually ties in with the Majin Buu/East Kai absorption. East Kai was innocent, peaceful, and appeared exactly like Buddha. Did you think the personality of fat Buu was geared for young children?



Lastly, if you listen to the dialog it uses curse words often, and along with the things they show (some mature content shown), there's no way its meant for children.
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 5:36 pm
Posted by freeagent
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 2:15 pm to
Well that angle / explanation makes it seem better lol.
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 2:30 pm to
I don't think "kids show" angle has much basis.

If anything it shows that the Omni King is easily controlable and his opinion is easily swayed. The Grand Priest is clearly using him as some sort of pawn, just as most of the Angels use their gods of destruction.

All of this is character development for when the the Angels and Grand Priest ultimately turn on the mortals, Kais, and gods
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 2:33 pm
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 4:28 pm to
Dragon Ball Super comes on at 9:00 am on Sunday in Japan

Dragonball, Dragonball Z, and GT came on at 7pm on Wednesday.

I think it is fair to say it is more kid friendly now with that time slot. That is around the time that Pokemon, Yugioh, and Disney Princess come on.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

I think it is fair to say it is more kid friendly now with that time slot. That is around the time that Pokemon, Yugioh, and Disney Princess come on.



There were edited/censored versions of DB, DBZ, and GT. For instance, there was never any blood shown, there was never any foul language or sexual references.



Also, I just finished the entirety of dragon ball. For those that have seen Dragon Ball and DBZ all the way through, is it head scratching at all to see Goten basically go SSJ at the same age Goku had barely learned the kamehameha wave or martial arts fighting in general?

Just seemed like Goku went through a shite ton of battles and major life events only to get to SSJ in an intense desperate battle against an immensely powerful opponent (Frieza) as an adult...while Goten without any battle experience or struggle whatsoever along with little to no martial arts discipline becomes SSJ at a very young age.


Maybe Goku's semen is effected by his power levels? He's weaker when he has Gohan, so while Gohan isn't a SSJ, Gohan clearly has more power than Goku at a much younger age, then Goten eclipses Gohan's power at roughly the same age.

This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 5:15 pm
Posted by freeagent
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

think his characterization is meant to infer that he's "like a child", but he has a massive amount of power. It might be a way to simply say the universe is random and mighty as if a child were simply playing games with the rest of us


^^ I don't buy the kids show angle either. This is what I referring to about Zen-Oh.. no I don't think they made him kid like to represent their viewing audience. I think they know their audience is older.
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:01 am to
yeah, Goten and Trunks going SSJ without any real trauma was a little annoying.

Gohan and Goku trained their asses off to be strong enough mentally and physically before they became SSJs.

Goten was just messing around with his mom and became a SSJ.

But for the age thing, it wasn't a big deal. I mean Gohan was the 3rd strongest earthling at 6 years old (including Piccolo and Goku as earthlings here).
Posted by LurkerTooLong
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 9:54 pm to
Don't give a shite about the emmy's, but that was a cool episode. It moved the arc along, but seemed like Goku was sidelined with his fight.
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