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The movie Moneyball with Brad Pitt
Posted on 9/2/11 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 9/2/11 at 4:20 pm
I wonder if it will be any good?
Posted on 9/2/11 at 4:24 pm to nicholastiger
Well dude we just don't know.....
Posted on 9/2/11 at 4:25 pm to nicholastiger
My boss just had lunch with Michael Lewis today.
:csb:
:csb:
Posted on 9/2/11 at 4:26 pm to nicholastiger
I wonder if there's a board for this type of thing
Posted on 9/2/11 at 4:30 pm to nicholastiger
I wonder if the Saints will win the NFC this year.
I guess I'll go start a thread about it on the SEC Rant.
I guess I'll go start a thread about it on the SEC Rant.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 4:31 pm to nicholastiger
Thanks for bringing this film to my attention.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 4:32 pm to TotesMcGotes
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I wonder if the Saints will win the NFC this year. I guess I'll go start a thread about it on the SEC Rant.
:roflmao:
Posted on 9/2/11 at 4:42 pm to nicholastiger
It's about Billy Beane, no?
Posted on 9/2/11 at 5:04 pm to Kingwood Tiger
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Well dude we just don't know.....
Gold
Posted on 9/2/11 at 5:10 pm to nicholastiger
They need to make Martyball: The Movie.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 5:42 pm to jw5587
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They need to make Martyball: The Movie.
Too conservative.
Posted on 9/2/11 at 5:47 pm to nicholastiger
the book is badass
one of the few books i have read in my life outside of school
one of the few books i have read in my life outside of school
Posted on 9/2/11 at 5:47 pm to nicholastiger
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I wonder if it will be any good?
no need to wonder because it will be boring
and yeah wrong board here skip
Posted on 9/2/11 at 5:48 pm to Walt OReilly
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one of the few books i have read in my life outside of school
The funniest part about the book is how shitty a lot of the players turned out. He was right about Youk and Swisher, but he was horribly wrong about a couple of his picks (that fat catcher named Brown).
Posted on 9/23/11 at 2:19 pm to nicholastiger
Moneyball If you think you're going to see a movie about baseball, think again. The baseball scenes are sparse and not good. This movie is about one thing and one thing only: faith despite the evidence and tradition. 3,000 or so years ago, or maybe never, a man named Abram lived. And God approached this man, telling him that if he were to leave his home, God would bless him with a new land and many descendants, despite his wife's old age and barrenness. At the time, it looked like a ridiculous commitment only a fool would make. There was no evidence that hinted that the decision would pay dividends. But Abram packed his bags and headed out, probably to the consternation and ridicule of all his neighbors who mocked him as a mad man. Faith for Abram, Karl Barth, and possibly Billy Beane was believing in something despite all the evidence, and standing back, and watching all the evidence change.
In that way, this movie is much more about a Copernican Revolution, a Abrahamic Revolution, really, than it is about baseball. Without question, this writer was influenced by Kuhn's Structure of Scientific Revolutions, which has deservedly become reading for college freshmen across the disciplines, so much so that the paradigm shifts it discusses have almost become cliche' in conversation. In the book, Kuhn uses history to show how normal science is governed by faith, even if its followers claim a lack of faith. Faith in a system and a method, faith in a certain ordering of ideas, is how each school of science becomes dominant, and the assumptions of that school become dogmatic, which is not meant to be used in a pejorative sense. But every system of belief has flaws and will face stalemate. Eventually, a revolutionary questions the assumptions of science to create a new form of science. This is the revolution, the paradigm shift.
Moneyball seeks through the superficial relationship between the plenipotentiary general manager of the A's, Brad Pitt, (Billy Beane) and his head scout and head coach to show a revolutionary butting heads with tradition. But the interplay doesn't work because from the get-go, the old guard is cast in a mocking way. We're never given time or reason to support anyone but Pitt and his way of thinking. Thanks to the overly revealing trailer, we know all the smart lines and ending before the beginning. Pitt is the hero and the movie is agitprop to build the hero. In that sense, the movie is one-faced, simple, and doesn't give justice to the other side, which a good drama demands. The scenes from Pitt's past don't add anything to the character or story, though the director tries to force an interpretation down our throats, but to no avail. Even more superfluous and useless is the weak attempt to bring Pitt's family into the movie. Pitt is not well cast here; his strength is shown when he plays the bad guy with the good heart, not the innovator. His relationship to Jonah Hill, whose me'tier is numbers, is clumsy. Hill is the real hero in the story, yet he is cast to the side as a troll. The only thing that really works is the message: that in order to bring real change, you need a faith in something higher than yourself because the ridicule and rejection the prophet faces is too much for one person to carry alone. Too bad Pitt's character is left as a shadow and the audience in the dark about why he believes the new system will work. 4/10
In that way, this movie is much more about a Copernican Revolution, a Abrahamic Revolution, really, than it is about baseball. Without question, this writer was influenced by Kuhn's Structure of Scientific Revolutions, which has deservedly become reading for college freshmen across the disciplines, so much so that the paradigm shifts it discusses have almost become cliche' in conversation. In the book, Kuhn uses history to show how normal science is governed by faith, even if its followers claim a lack of faith. Faith in a system and a method, faith in a certain ordering of ideas, is how each school of science becomes dominant, and the assumptions of that school become dogmatic, which is not meant to be used in a pejorative sense. But every system of belief has flaws and will face stalemate. Eventually, a revolutionary questions the assumptions of science to create a new form of science. This is the revolution, the paradigm shift.
Moneyball seeks through the superficial relationship between the plenipotentiary general manager of the A's, Brad Pitt, (Billy Beane) and his head scout and head coach to show a revolutionary butting heads with tradition. But the interplay doesn't work because from the get-go, the old guard is cast in a mocking way. We're never given time or reason to support anyone but Pitt and his way of thinking. Thanks to the overly revealing trailer, we know all the smart lines and ending before the beginning. Pitt is the hero and the movie is agitprop to build the hero. In that sense, the movie is one-faced, simple, and doesn't give justice to the other side, which a good drama demands. The scenes from Pitt's past don't add anything to the character or story, though the director tries to force an interpretation down our throats, but to no avail. Even more superfluous and useless is the weak attempt to bring Pitt's family into the movie. Pitt is not well cast here; his strength is shown when he plays the bad guy with the good heart, not the innovator. His relationship to Jonah Hill, whose me'tier is numbers, is clumsy. Hill is the real hero in the story, yet he is cast to the side as a troll. The only thing that really works is the message: that in order to bring real change, you need a faith in something higher than yourself because the ridicule and rejection the prophet faces is too much for one person to carry alone. Too bad Pitt's character is left as a shadow and the audience in the dark about why he believes the new system will work. 4/10
This post was edited on 9/23/11 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 9/23/11 at 2:21 pm to jw5587
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They need to make Martyball: The Movie.
It would probably be really awesome the first weekend then just get progressively shittier every day it was shown.
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