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re: 'The Little Mermaid' Official Trailer | Disney

Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:57 am to
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:57 am to
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Honest question

What about Disney World? What do they do to the ride as well as the meet and greet? Do they have a white and a black Ariel and parents choose which one to take their kids to meet/take pics with or do they just eradicate the original?


They handle this the same way they've handled literally every other remake. None of the live-action remakes have replaced the original cartoons as far as merchandising, marketing, etc.
Posted by schatman
Montana
Member since Nov 2018
2593 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:58 am to
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Disney have no originality


Lol. I'm no Disney apologist, but you do realize most of their content was derived from very old fairy tales, right?
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:59 am to
It looks better than I expected TBH
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15152 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:00 am to
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but also changed her iconic fire red hair to brown with a slight red tint. And gave her dreads on top of that.


This is the part that does bother me. Im fine with her having dreads. But I would have much preferred if they gave her that fire red color. I get the feel they wanted a more natural realistic color, but I don't think that was a good idea.
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10455 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:24 am to
Disney with another crowd pleaser. They're on a roll lately.

Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4426 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 11:32 am to
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They seem to delight in provoking a response from fans of the original material.

this is what this ALL boils down to.

1. antagonize your historic (white) fanbase
2. rile up the woke idiots
3. create a fake controversy for publicity
4. hope like hell that the controversy publicity translates to ticket sales to make a profit before everyone realizes the content is pretty average, and notably worse than the original

I mean I guess it's a business model that works
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150441 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:16 pm to
I don't know if I'll ever watch this one, but the trailer actually wasn't as bad as I was expecting. I'm not a fan of "Ariel not looking like Ariel," sure, but my biggest gripe was how Sebastian sounded. And some of the CGI looked bad.

I wonder if the preacher at the end will have a boner in this one.
This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 12:18 pm
Posted by MasonTiger
Mason, Ohio
Member since Jan 2005
16236 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:21 pm to
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Think they have the balls?
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Disney has already announced that Snow white will be played by Colombian-American actress Rachel Zegler, who starred as Maria in the recent West Side Story remake.

Posted by MStant1
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
4527 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:47 pm to
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See...I would 100% agree with you if the door swung both ways, but it doesn't. If they were to cast Austin Butler to play Blade or Colin Farrell to play T'Challa, there would be an outcry the likes of which Hollywood has never seen before.



Being black is one of the central premises of both characters you just named, though. It's not apples to apples. Little Mermaid being black or white, literally doesn't matter (same for broader discussions on having non-white actors in LOTR).

Similarly, I don't think you could ever have a non-white Steve Rogers unless you completely change backstory and effectively create a whole new character. And not so much that the premise of Steve Rogers character is being white, as much as the origins of his character in early to mid-20th century America wouldn't make sense as non-white. Likewise, I wouldn't be a fan of changing the races of Charles Xavier or Magneto, given that being European Jews is central to their origins (although I would be onboard for modern reimagining of these two characters as black people in America - but even still that would almost be different characters and totally different origins).
Posted by ReadyPlayer1
Clown World
Member since Oct 2020
1055 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 12:55 pm to
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Melissa McCarthy might end up being the most spot on casting decision.

She was the only part of that trailer that looked good. The rest of it looked like shite.
Posted by Jizzy08
Member since Aug 2008
11213 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:15 pm to
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Lol. I'm no Disney apologist, but you do realize most of their content was derived from very old fairy tales, right?


Yes I am fully aware. But retelling classical stories built with their own original songs and characters is more creative than take those exact same stories and rebranding it with CGI and actors.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68406 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:19 pm to
Of course Ursula is still white

I really wish I could see the dislikes
This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 1:21 pm
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
88562 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:31 pm to
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what they have done to my boy Sebastian

Where the frick is Flounder
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:38 pm to
Trailer looks fantastic. The girl playing the mermaid is pretty.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123547 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:41 pm to
She’s pretty, but it’s just weird and takes you out of it that that is Ariel. Every time they showed her i wasn’t thinking about the trailer/story I was thinking “that’s who they chose? Lol.”
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
4932 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 1:45 pm to
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Being black is one of the central premises of both characters you just named, though.


Uh, of course it is. Being white is a "central premise" of the little mermaid in that in every visual telling of said story, the FICTIONAL character is white just as the FICTIONAL characters of Blade and Black Panther are black. But one is an ok target to race change and the others are, undeniably, not. It's no big deal, ultimately, but it's absolutely apples to apples. Both are fictional characters. Of course, even if they aren't fictional, Hollywood will still do what it does, like with Hamilton. I seriously doubt we will get a "reimagining" of Harriet Tubman's story starring an asian actress.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22693 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
16699 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 2:29 pm to
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Being black is one of the central premises of both characters you just named, though. It's not apples to apples. Little Mermaid being black or white, literally doesn't matter


So you believe that Hans Christian Andersen, a Dane, wrote The Little Mermaid in 1836 with a black mermaid in mind?
Posted by MStant1
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
4527 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 2:34 pm to
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Uh, of course it is. Being white is a "central premise" of the little mermaid in that in every visual telling of said story, the FICTIONAL character is white just as the FICTIONAL characters of Blade and Black Panther are black. But one is an ok target to race change and the others are, undeniably, not. It's no big deal, ultimately, but it's absolutely apples to apples. Both are fictional characters. Of course, even if they aren't fictional, Hollywood will still do what it does, like with Hamilton. I seriously doubt we will get a "reimagining" of Harriet Tubman's story starring an asian actress.



It feels like you're intentionally missing the point here. Being white isn't the premise of Ariel's character....largely because she's half fish after all. Her being portrayed as white was only done because that tends to be the "default" portrayal for most western stories, but beyond that there is nothing about Ariel's story that requires her to be white or any specific race for that matter. She can be white, black, asian, native, etc. and nothing about her story has to change. Where as the character of Black Panther and Blade are explicitly black stories written to describe black experiences. Everything from their character origins, their stories, how they interact in society is all written with the backdrop of being black. Same is true of characters like Steve Rogers, Magneto, or Charles Xavier. Changing their race would require changing their origins and major points of their story (e.g., a black person would have never been presented as the face of the US Army in 1940 for Rogers and Jewish people in concentration camps were primarily white eastern European in origin).

With regards to Hamilton....it's not meant to be a history play. It's a reimagining for the purposes of telling a broader story about race and immigration. It isn't nor is it intended to be a biopic of the actual Hamilton. Even still, white people have been cast as people of color from real life and fiction for decades and I doubt you cared.

Harriet Tubman was a real person whose entire story is about being a former slave and helping other black people escape slavery. Her race is central to every story one would tell about her. Even with that in mind, there was a legitimate push by a hollywood producer to cast Julia Roberts in a HT movie.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 2:37 pm to
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I really wish I could see the dislikes


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