re: 'The Last of Us' Episode 3 Gamers Thread: Spoilers!! Complaints, Part 2 talk allowed

Episode was OK. In the game, Ellie and Bill's interactions are great, so it's a but disappointing that they changed that

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idk man the way he interacted with Frank ("he's the only one who would wear that shirt") and the note Frank left reading like there had been a lovers quarrel, combined with the gay porno mag; it wasn't outright stated but we can say it was very heavily implied he was in more than a platonic relationship with Frank.

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I agree with all this. Their relationship is implied.

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At this point, you're arguing just to argue. If you want to argue that this episode was expensive compared to the rest of the show, have at it. It wasn't, but go ahead.

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Neither of us knows this to be true at all. No matter what it cost, it was too expensive for an episode that barely moved the plot at all (and only if we're being generous).

Since the "next week preview" shows them crashing the truck, it seems anyone could have skipped this one completely and just moved right on to next week without missing any portion of the story at all.

The reason the game handles this better is because at the end of the day, Bill is an ancillary character. His purpose to help facilitate and further the story of Joel and Ellie.

We learn everything about Bill that we need to in the game. The background information about his past with Frank was the perfect dosage. It's not overshadowing our main characters, yet at the same time provides some insight into this man's life and what he was going through after civilization crumbled.

The reason the show gets it wrong is because it decides, just 3 episodes into the show, to completely sideline the main characters for an hour and focus on this ancillary character's romantic life. The plot becomes suspended, we see very little of the characters we were told to invest in, and instead we're shown the romantic life of two characters that ultimately we will never see again.

You don't do that 3 episodes into a new show. You just don't. It kills all previously established momentum. If Bill was in a heterosexual relationship with a woman, it would have been just as bad. Nothing changes. But that's the point - if Bill was straight, and they kept him straight, this kind of episode would have never been approved. Because it would have been recognized as bad design. You don't give side characters with no future in the franchise an entire 1+ hour episode while your main characters are sidelined and the plot is paused, especially on just the 3rd episode of the very first season.

But we know why it was ultimately done this way. The desire to prominently show a gay relationship between two older men took precedence over honoring events of the game and maintaining a sound pace and overall structure for the show.

Episode should have been named “Tampons, TP, and All you Can Eat Blowjobs”

Or “Romeo and Romeo”

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Ellie literally steals a gay porno from Bill, it’s pretty damn obvious

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That really isn't obvious at all if you think about it for more than 2 seconds.

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yeah imjustafatkid watches gay porn all the time doesn't make him queer!

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yeah imjustafatkid watches gay porn all the time doesn't make him queer!

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Should have kept reading the thread. You wouldn't have made such a stupid comment.

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yeah imjustafatkid watches gay porn all the time doesn't make him queer!

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Evidence Bill actually looked at gay porn? I'll wait.

I have a can of creamed peas in my pantry. That must mean not only do I eat creamed peas, but I enjoy eating it, too. Couldn't just be there because a family member brought that shite over for Thanksgiving and I left it off the menu, or I accidentally grabbed the wrong can while grabbing 5 cans of Bean & Ham and that can was misplaced among the ones I wanted, or my wife eats that slop while I hate it.

I must love creamed peas. Because you KNOW, not because you inferred it. You people are as exhausting as the religious nut in the Runners' thread

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I have a can of creamed peas in my pantry. That must mean not only do I eat creamed peas, but I enjoy eating it, too. Couldn't just be there because a family member brought that shite over for Thanksgiving and I left it off the menu, or I accidentally grabbed the wrong can while grabbing 5 cans of Bean & Ham and that can was misplaced among the ones I wanted, or my wife eats that slop while I hate it.

I must love creamed peas. Because you KNOW, not because you inferred it. You people are as exhausting as the religious nut in the Runners' thread

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It just really isn't shocking that someone who is living in an apocalypse and trades for things would find something like that and keep it, even if it isn't appealing to them. I'd trade that to some perv for some bullets/food/lumber/etc in a heartbeat. Doesn't mean I'm into it.

I'd also hoard any feminine products I might find. I'd keep anything that's small and could be bartered. Medicine, magazines, hygiene products, things like that would be hot commodities as the years drag on.

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You people are as exhausting as the religious nut in the Runners' thread

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i was one of the heavies in the early days of the runner's thread, but backed out after i got burned out in 2020. haven't clicked on it in 2 years out of shame. what's going on in there?

i'm a christian, but very rarely did that come up during that thread, nor did i find it the appropriate place.