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re: The Last of Us | S1 Episode 4 | Please Hold My Hand - **NO GAMER SPOILER thread**

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Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:10 pm to
Joes and Tess you mean. Can’t discuss anything with you because you tell half truths and leave out information to intentionally invert reality. Go piss in someone else’s ear.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:13 pm to
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In an attempt to hide from people, they pull off the highway then drive across an entire field of high grass leaving a both highly visible and easy to follow trail right to them.


Unless someone is actively looking for them from a higher elevation, that trail wouldn't be noticed.

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2. Can't build a fire because of someone seeing the smoke or fire, but it's ok to use a bright as the sun lantern?


Smoke can seen from long distances, the lanterns wouldn't be seen from more than a mile away at most.

Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:34 pm to
Joel clearly didn't catch mission impossible when it came out. You do the crushed glass trick on the outside of the door not the inside. If they're stepping on the glass inside the room it's too late!
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:40 pm to
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In the end, it showed what a waste the last episode was because other than some 20 year chef boyardee and a book of puns they immediately lose all the supplies they got from Bill.

But how do you know that the supplies are permanently lost?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:43 pm to
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In the end, it showed what a waste the last episode was because other than some 20 year chef boyardee and a book of puns they immediately lose all the supplies they got from Bill.


Yeah. The truck that allowed them to get all the way from outside of Boston to Kansas City in one episode was a huge waste.



Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:46 pm to
Ah this thread wouldn’t be complete without our contrarian retard
Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:48 pm to
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Yeah. The truck that allowed them to get all the way from outside of Boston to Kansas City in one episode was a huge waste.




Just let them be miserable, its not worth it
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:53 pm to
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Just let them be miserable, its not worth it

I find it entertaining the mental gymnastics they can do to make the show fit their warped view of reality.

Imagine watching that episode and thinking they made Kathleen look like a great leader.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:54 pm to
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The distance of visibility between smoke from a fire and a lantern isnt even in the same realm


In the day time. They used the lantern at night.

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Yeah im sure they could have walked those 1400 miles just as fast as the truck got them there.


So they wasted 1/9th of the season on the backstory of the guy that had a truck.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:55 pm to
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Unless someone is actively looking for them from a higher elevation, that trail wouldn't be noticed.


Are you saying you can't see matted down long grass at ground level?
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:56 pm to
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So they wasted 1/9th of the season on the backstory of the guy that had a truck.

It wasnt wasted at all. It was a great episode of tv. If they needed more episodes they could have added as many episodes as they needed. There was no rule they could only make 9 episodes.

What is your opinion on Seinfeld? Is the whole show just wasted episodes cuz nothing "imporant" happens?
This post was edited on 2/6/23 at 3:58 pm
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:57 pm to
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Ah this thread wouldn’t be complete without our contrarian retard


I would suggest your look up the definition of contrarian. As for the rest of your comment, I assume that since you are reduced to insults you can't refute any of the assertions of how the writers had Joel acting like an idiot.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:03 pm to
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Are you saying you can't see matted down long grass at ground level?



I'm saying that it doesn't matter if nobody is actively searching for the truck .

That matted down grass could be from 2 weeks ago for all some random passerby knows. And also, it's close to sunset, who's gonna notice matted down grass in the dark?
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:07 pm to
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definition of contrarian

a person who opposes or rejects popular opinion. Sounds like you
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can't refute any of the assertions of how the writers had Joel acting like an idiot.


Actually I can

They had to hide the truck too, leaving it on the side of the road would be incredibly dumb and an easy way for it to get stolen. A truck is much easier to see over track marks that could have been there for a year

A fire is far easier to see than a lamp plus smoke has a smell to it

She had it on for no more then a couple of minutes, now you’re just nitpicking

Who else was going to look at the map? Joel was driving.

Ah yes he should go outside where there’s people all over the place looking to kill them

Is he supposed to magically produce more bullets? If it were the other way around you’d be bitching about it being unrealistic that he had so many bullets

It was not a waste Bill’s letter sets up character development for Joel, showing Bill’s town and ending shows a contrast to life in the QZ and a flip of the script on the usual dark endings we get in a ZA

All of your complaints are either idiotic or ridiculous nitpicks

Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:08 pm to
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I assume that since you are reduced to insults you can't refute any of the assertions of how the writers had Joel acting like an idiot.


well you left out a lot of details, probably for a reason

for instance, you talk about not building a fire, but still using the lantern, but then left out the part about Joel staying up all night standing guard

you talk about driving through the field, as if leaving the truck along the road would have been a better choice? and if you are worried about trails in the field, humans walking in tail grass leave a trail as well

getting lost due to the blocked road wasn't even the dumb thing, as traveling through major cities would seem like an obvious no-go IMO, so seems like wrong thing to even complain about here

the climbing up 30 stories was actually smart, instead of just blindly running around in unfamiliar territory, and this strategy of getting high to see what's ahead was already established in an earlier episode

He fired 3 bullets, I did not get the sense that he only had 3 bullets. He killed the kid with the knife to save his bullets. Not because he didn't have anymore.



Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:00 pm to
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the climbing up 30 stories was actually smart, instead of just blindly running around in unfamiliar territory, and this strategy of getting high to see what's ahead was already established in an earlier episode


Nah. Better to just run around on foot in the city you just got lost in using a vehicle and map.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:21 pm to
Don't waste energy typing that much out to morons
This post was edited on 2/6/23 at 7:22 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 1:33 am to
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In an attempt to hide from people, they pull off the highway then drive across an entire field of high grass leaving a both highly visible and easy to follow trail right to them.
First of all, it’s a show about the zombie apocalypse. When we learned in the first episode they were going from Boston to Wyoming, this is exactly the type of thing we would expect to happen, we want these types of things to happen. I don’t want to watch a show about the zombie apocalypse, and drive essentially the length of the country without getting in some intense predicaments, that could only happen in a zombie apocalypse. That sounds boring, besides the potential cinematography.

In addition, it’s based on a game. And in the interviews after the show, they said that they changed it from Pittsburgh to Kansas City, because they were filming in Calgary, and it was easier to make it look like a place like KC.

But I think it even works better, because the show went out of its way to show us why the made the decision. It makes a point to discuss backtracking, then they show us that they would not only have to backtrack a huge distance, then take an intersect highway that heads southwest, and their destination is to the northwest. Looking at googlemaps, they would have had to go all the way back to St Louis, and looks like go Southwest to Tulsa, then take that to I-35, going through Wichita, before meeting getting back on I-70, an hour or 2 outside of where they turned around, KC.

So rather than go many hundreds and hundreds of miles out of their way to get around (more time and distance means more risks too), he explains that they’ll just quickly get back on at the next exit, and it would only take a minutes tops, which is almost assuredly true based on how cities are designed. Plus he says F it, showing he knew it was a risk, but that distance and time saved, was worth it for just 60 seconds of risk. That’s why you could see panicked, as soon as he realized it wasn’t going that way.

But this also makes sense, and makes more sense that Pittsburgh in the show, in that to get to KC they had to go through a number of cities, and based on the interstates he mentioned, got on I-70 just passed Pittsburgh, and went through Columbus, Dayton, Indianapolis, and St. Louis, then KC.

But get around KC, and the only other city probably left is Denver. Backtracking takes you back to St. Louis, then Tulsa, and then Wichita. Get around KC, and it would make for the boring zombie apocalypse show you want, where they travel across country and get to their destination, with nothing eventful happening after they got out of Boston.

If you want to watch the most boring Zombie Apocalypse show, then that’s fine. But if you’re going to watch this show and whine about it, at least pay enough attention for why stuff happened so you wouldn’t have to whine, when they’re going out of the way to make sure you’re aware of it.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 1:35 am
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
9811 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:13 am to
Haven’t read through the thread but that episode kind of sucked for me. Wish they would have had a run in with a few zombies or something
Posted by Reeaholic
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Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:57 am to
Ok so what we know is that this season is 9 episodes and will compete the events in the 1st game. So Id imagine episode 5 will be alot of action if they wanna close out the KC (Pittsburgh for the game) portion.
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