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Posted on 10/20/15 at 12:04 pm to CocomoLSU
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Maybe, but I wasn't on google or youtube; I was on here. And clicked the "Official in-game thread" for the trailer. So frick me for the OP not putting a link to it in the fist post...clearly it was silly of me to think it would be in here, right?
Can't people with your powers just edit it in? I agree OP needs to edit with link.
Posted on 10/20/15 at 12:07 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Sidious was more powerful than Yoda, and the only person ever that had the potential to be more powerful than Sidious was Anakin.
What do you base that assumption on? The duel? Yoda was at a disadvantage once the fight spilled into the senate chamber.
This post was edited on 10/20/15 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 10/20/15 at 12:14 pm to BulldogXero
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What do you base that assumption on? The duel? Yoda was at a disadvantage once the fight spilled into the senate chamber.
Yoda was indeed powerful, perhaps the most powerful Jedi alive other than Anakin. But Yoda himself realized once he started fighting Sidious that he was not as powerful as him.
Posted on 10/20/15 at 12:14 pm to TeddyPadillac
At the end of the prequel trilogy there were no real signs that anyone knew. Even if Palpatine did know which I find highly unlikely he would have thought they were dead. After Luke blew up the Death Star in a New Hope its likely his name spread across the galaxy like wild fire. I am still not sure that Vader knew Luke was his son because all he says is "The Force is strong with this one." My thinking is that he found out sometime in between a New Hope and the Empire Strikes Back.
Posted on 10/20/15 at 12:17 pm to Darth_Vader
wrong - Yoda was powerful, but Windu had more power then him - his particular ability in the force was to be able to absorb dark side power, like the force lightning, and dissipate it harmlessly - which is why he was not being affected by Palpatine's attack in ep 3.
it wasn't until Anakin cut off his hands that left him vulnerable.
it wasn't until Anakin cut off his hands that left him vulnerable.
Posted on 10/20/15 at 12:22 pm to CoachDon
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At the end of the prequel trilogy there were no real signs that anyone knew. Even if Palpatine did know which I find highly unlikely he would have thought they were dead. After Luke blew up the Death Star in a New Hope its likely his name spread across the galaxy like wild fire. I am still not sure that Vader knew Luke was his son because all he says is "The Force is strong with this one." My thinking is that he found out sometime in between a New Hope and the Empire Strikes Back.
I know this will piss some off here, don't really care, but at one time it was the bounty hunter Boba Fett himself that informed Vader of the identity of the young Rebel pilot with the strong connection to the Force that destroyed the Death Star. Not sure if that's still "canon".
Posted on 10/20/15 at 12:24 pm to Thracken13
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wrong - Yoda was powerful, but Windu had more power then him - his particular ability in the force was to be able to absorb dark side power, like the force lightning, and dissipate it harmlessly - which is why he was not being affected by Palpatine's attack in ep 3.
Wrong. Windu was the best swordsman in the Jedi order but it was widely accepted by them all, including Windu that Yoda was the wisest and most powerful of them all.
Posted on 10/20/15 at 12:25 pm to Thracken13
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wrong - Yoda was powerful, but Windu had more power then him - his particular ability in the force was to be able to absorb dark side power, like the force lightning, and dissipate it harmlessly - which is why he was not being affected by Palpatine's attack in ep 3.
Palpatine was letting Windu win. It was the only way to force Anakin to make the decision to save him. Once Anakin killed Windu, he realized there was no turning back.
I'm not saying Yoda wasn't powerful. He was. i'm just saying in the original trilogy, we think he's the most powerful person.
in the prequels, we see he wasn't as powerful as we thought, and the emperor is the most powerful person.
Posted on 10/20/15 at 12:27 pm to Thracken13
ROTS, Novel re: Yoda vs. Plpatine
"There came a turning point in the clash of the light against the dark.
It did not come from a flash of lightning or slash of energy blade, though there were these in plenty; it did not come from a flying kick or a surgically precise punch, though these were traded, too.
It came as the battle shifted from the holding office to the great Chancellor's Podium; it came as the hydraulic lift beneath the Podium raised it on its tower of durasteel a hundred meters and more, so that it became a laserpoint of battle flaring at the focus of the vast emptiness of the Senate Arena; it came as the Force and the podium's controls ripped delegation pods free of the curving walls and made of them hammers, battering rams, catapult stones crashing and crushing against each other in a rolling thunder-roar that echoed the Senate's cheers for the galaxy's new Emperor.
It came when the avatar of light resolved into the lineage of the Jedi; when the lineage of the Jedi refined into one single Jedi.
It came when Yoda found himself alone against the dark.
In that lightning-speared tornado of feet and fists and blades and bashing machines, his vision finally pierced the darkness that had clouded the Force.
Finally, he saw the truth.
This truth: that he, the avatar of light, Supreme Master of the Jedi Order, the fiercest, most implacable, most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness had ever known...
just--
didn't--
have it.
He'd never had it. He had lost before he started.
He had lost before he was born.
The Sith had changed. The Sith had grown, had adapted, had invested a thousand years' intensive study into every aspect of not only the Force but Jedi lore itself, in preparation for exactly this day. The Sith had remade themselves.
They had become new.
While the Jedi--
The Jedi had spent that same millennium training to refight the last war.
The new Sith could not be destroyed with a lightsaber; they could not be burned away by any torch of the Force. The brighter the light, the darker their shadow. How could one win a war against the dark, when the war itself had become the dark's own weapon?
He knew, at that instant, that this insight held the hope of the galaxy. But if he fell here, that hope would die with him.
Hmmm, Yoda thought. A problem this is ..."
"There came a turning point in the clash of the light against the dark.
It did not come from a flash of lightning or slash of energy blade, though there were these in plenty; it did not come from a flying kick or a surgically precise punch, though these were traded, too.
It came as the battle shifted from the holding office to the great Chancellor's Podium; it came as the hydraulic lift beneath the Podium raised it on its tower of durasteel a hundred meters and more, so that it became a laserpoint of battle flaring at the focus of the vast emptiness of the Senate Arena; it came as the Force and the podium's controls ripped delegation pods free of the curving walls and made of them hammers, battering rams, catapult stones crashing and crushing against each other in a rolling thunder-roar that echoed the Senate's cheers for the galaxy's new Emperor.
It came when the avatar of light resolved into the lineage of the Jedi; when the lineage of the Jedi refined into one single Jedi.
It came when Yoda found himself alone against the dark.
In that lightning-speared tornado of feet and fists and blades and bashing machines, his vision finally pierced the darkness that had clouded the Force.
Finally, he saw the truth.
This truth: that he, the avatar of light, Supreme Master of the Jedi Order, the fiercest, most implacable, most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness had ever known...
just--
didn't--
have it.
He'd never had it. He had lost before he started.
He had lost before he was born.
The Sith had changed. The Sith had grown, had adapted, had invested a thousand years' intensive study into every aspect of not only the Force but Jedi lore itself, in preparation for exactly this day. The Sith had remade themselves.
They had become new.
While the Jedi--
The Jedi had spent that same millennium training to refight the last war.
The new Sith could not be destroyed with a lightsaber; they could not be burned away by any torch of the Force. The brighter the light, the darker their shadow. How could one win a war against the dark, when the war itself had become the dark's own weapon?
He knew, at that instant, that this insight held the hope of the galaxy. But if he fell here, that hope would die with him.
Hmmm, Yoda thought. A problem this is ..."
Posted on 10/20/15 at 12:29 pm to Napoleon
quote:No I haven't. I'm just pointing out that the feel of the trailer is formulaic in a non-Star Wars way. The first 10 seconds of it kind of reminds me of Ex Machina, which is odd, since this movie has a lot of the same actors.
you've complained about every trailer, every released still from the movie and every bit of leaked info
Posted on 10/20/15 at 12:33 pm to CoachDon
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CoachDon
Thank you, that's exactly what I was talking about Yoda realizing while he fought Sidious in the Senate. He came to realize he personally could not defeat Sidious but he'd seen how the Sith could eventually be defeated.
Posted on 10/20/15 at 12:34 pm to blueboy
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No I haven't. I'm just pointing out that the feel of the trailer is formulaic in a non-Star Wars way. The first 10 seconds of it kind of reminds me of Ex Machina, which is odd, since this movie has a lot of the same actors
Guys, downvote if you think Blue boy has been complaining in every thread on this movie. Upvote if he has valid points and has not been bitching in every thread.
Posted on 10/20/15 at 12:35 pm to blueboy
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blueboy
Just go away
Posted on 10/20/15 at 12:36 pm to blueboy
Yoda was a powerful teacher, who instructed other great Jedi like Kit Fisto, Mace Windu, Ki-Adi Mundi, Count Dooku, Obi-Wan Kenobi and finally, on Dagobah, Luke Skywalker.
Best combat Jedi with Lightsaber - Mace Windu and Yoda know all 7 techniques, so....?
Best combat Jedi with Lightsaber - Mace Windu and Yoda know all 7 techniques, so....?
Posted on 10/20/15 at 12:38 pm to Darth_Vader
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Thank you, that's exactly what I was talking about Yoda realizing while he fought Sidious in the Senate. He came to realize he personally could not defeat Sidious but he'd seen how the Sith could eventually be defeated.
No problem. In fact, they both realized during the battle that they stood to lose. Retreating isn't a sign of being a coward with these two, it's strategy.
Posted on 10/20/15 at 12:42 pm to CoachDon
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No problem. In fact, they both realized during the battle that they stood to lose. Retreating isn't a sign of being a coward with these two, it's strategy
Very good point. This is especially true of Sidious.
Posted on 10/20/15 at 12:58 pm to boXerrumble
I want to see Chewie flip the hell out when Han dies. He better take on ten Stormtroopers on his own and limbs need to be pulled. What's the brace on his bicep, btw?
Posted on 10/20/15 at 12:58 pm to Darth_Vader
Nothing will stand in our way.
I will finish...
...what you started.
I will finish...
...what you started.
Posted on 10/20/15 at 1:04 pm to Breesus
quote:you first
Just go away
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