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re: The Expanse Season 5

Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:43 am to
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:43 am to
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Just ordered the set 1-8 off Amazon. Love the show. I'm sure the books are better.


Definitely better, imo.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36552 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:49 am to
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Just ordered the set 1-8 off Amazon. Love the show. I'm sure the books are better.


Better man than me. I've got the audible.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41120 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 11:40 am to
I've never done audio books. Guess I should give it a try. Every day I get closer to needing reading glasses......
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22531 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 11:25 am to
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but the show clearly wants us to feel sympathy for Filip, so he only killed a measly 2 million.


If the show would have killed 15 billion on earth the devastation would have been so bad it would be hard to carry on Earth storylines.

It didn’t have to be 15 billion in the show but 2 million is nothing compared to how massive the earth’s population is and how large scale the attacks initially looked. I’m sure more people will die in the coming months but it likely won’t go up as much as it should.

It should have been somewhere in between. 15 billion is too much and would take Earth’s importance out completely while a few million only would piss the UN off. Something like a few billion wouldn’t be enough to neuter Earth but still enough to significantly lower Earth’s power. Maybe we’re looking to much into it, but it seems they’re going for Earth is scared and angry with a minimal recovery period rather then they’re a significant power occupied with chaos.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6439 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 6:08 pm to
Episode 7 is up.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14420 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 8:18 pm to
That ending though.

Holden is so boring. Other than him, everything about this show is great.
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 9:14 pm to
Holden from the very start came off as a slacker, who didn't want responsibility, and shunned the spotlight. Without Miller, he's a bit of a dud. I guess after losing a ghost friend, you'd be bummed too?

So, is Alex (Cas Anvar) gonna be written out off screen? Guess we'll find out next episode.

Dammit.
Posted by Tsw
Member since Dec 2020
75 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:47 am to
Yea, he is getting written out due to some 'inappropriate' interactions with fans. My guess he dies saving Bobby or something, and like mentioned prior Bull takes his spot.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:04 am to
Thank god the Naomi/Marco/Filip plotline on the Palla is over. Bored me in the books and the show.

That was like a two minute, half a mile suitless spacewalk for Naomi

Posted by Tsw
Member since Dec 2020
75 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:31 am to
Its been very slow to watch the Naomi scenes, it feels like nothing is happening. I was also disappointed that there were no Amos/Peaches last episode.

My only question is where is the protomolecule if it wasn't on the Zen?? ship. I guess it's possible the trade Alex & Bobby saw earlier was it.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:54 am to
Yeah I’m pretty sure the Martians already have it and are headed to the ring.

Why else would Marco already have all the Martian ships?
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 9:55 am
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41120 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:04 am to
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Thank god the Naomi/Marco/Filip plotline on the Palla is over. Bored me in the books and the show.

That was like a two minute, half a mile suitless spacewalk for Naomi



Agreed. Very slow episode with a great ending.
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4643 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 1:57 pm to
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Holden is so boring. Other than him, everything about this show is great.



He's much better in the books. I think they do a better job of capturing what a principled White Knight he is and how his black/white morality becomes increasingly difficult to maintain as situations get more complicated. That's a lot easier to convey in writing in his POV chapters and through seeing him from other poeple's POV chapters than it is in a television series.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19235 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 4:31 pm to
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He's much better in the books.


I took a class in college on adaptation.

I only realized it after the fact, but the professor had chosen movies that were better than the books, in order to illustrate how the two mediums work differently.

Rear Window for example is a much better as a movie, because you don't know if the hero is right, or not.

I don't know how you resolve Holden's issue of internal conflict. I think a better actor might be able to do more with the material he's given. And show that conflict. But who knows, that's hard.
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 4:32 pm
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 5:20 pm to
I thought about that as he was having to jump from the Belter ship back to the Razorback . I half expected Alex getting caught up in the shrapnel from the explosion, and getting snuffed, much like their buddy from the Cant did, when they were all in the holding cell on the Martian ship.

Make it fast, make it quick and just leave no doubt.

Or they could just have him go home, to his wife and kids... yeah, I'm not expecting any happily ever afters for Alex.

This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 5:21 pm
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:29 pm to
My mental image of James Holden will always be Malcolm Reynolds. Strait is weak in the role for sure.

Amos, Alex, Avasrala, and Bobby are dead on.

Fred and Naomi aren’t bad. I always pictured Fred as Keith David though.
Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
Member since Dec 2008
12715 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:36 pm to
I remember thinking Strait was a little too hipster looking in his photos when they announced him for holden. But he's grown on me and have enjoyed his take on holden.

Kind of sucks not getting any Amos and Peaches Guess we're getting them off the rock next episode.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36552 posts
Posted on 1/14/21 at 6:56 am to
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Holden is so boring. Other than him, everything about this show is great.



He's kind of a Jon Snow character. The books focus in on his mannerisms a little more and it makes him more human.
This post was edited on 1/14/21 at 6:56 am
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36552 posts
Posted on 1/14/21 at 6:57 am to
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He's much better in the books. I think they do a better job of capturing what a principled White Knight he is and how his black/white morality becomes increasingly difficult to maintain as situations get more complicated. That's a lot easier to convey in writing in his POV chapters and through seeing him from other poeple's POV chapters than it is in a television series.




You said it better than me.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36552 posts
Posted on 1/14/21 at 7:00 am to
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That was like a two minute, half a mile suitless spacewalk for Naomi


I haven't seen the episode yet, but I've been looking forward to this scene.

For some reason I've got the Cowboy Bebop suitless space walk stuck in my mind.
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