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re: The Boys Season 2 (Spoilers) Episode 8 “What I Know”

Posted on 9/17/20 at 7:00 pm to
Posted by gizmothepug
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Posted on 9/17/20 at 7:00 pm to
Episode 5 is up.
Posted by safemode
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Posted on 9/17/20 at 7:01 pm to
Episode 5 is up now...
Posted by gizmothepug
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Posted on 9/17/20 at 8:38 pm to
Stormfront is a bad bitch in more ways than one.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 9/17/20 at 9:11 pm to
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Stormfront is a bad bitch in more ways than one.

Come on, you know you wanna do it
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 9/17/20 at 9:31 pm to
Not sure I'm liking the racism push here. I know, per the books Stormfront is a Nazi, but is a dude in the books too.

In the show, I don't think they really established it that solidly. She makes the yellow bastard comment, there is the implication with Liberty's past, and then apparently it's something Starlight has read. Starlight makes the accusation for our benefit, but it isn't really that blatant or obvious just yet...
she says something nasty to, let's face it, a super-terrorist. Some ghetto folks get killed in what easily could be a superhero rage. She's snarky to A-Train, but let's not try to make him sympathetic, he's a dick and he IS washed up.

She's clearly a psycho bitch, but "turning on your own kind"- if they would have went to the Supers vs Normals instead of racism, they really wouldn't have had to change anything at all yet.
Posted by Athos
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Posted on 9/17/20 at 10:05 pm to
Just got caught up with ep4. Goddamn. Anthony Starr is just so damned creepy as The Homelander. His milk thing. The creepy shite with Doppelgänger (also hilarious tho). His rage fest. His realization to go god mode on everyone. Definitely the best actor on the show.

And damn. Really going kind of rewriting Stormfronts backstory. Interesting to see where all this goes.

Posted by gizmothepug
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Posted on 9/17/20 at 10:26 pm to
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She's snarky to A-Train, but let's not try to make him sympathetic,


The only reason I felt anything for A-Train in that scene was because it was pretty clear to me what she was saying.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
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Posted on 9/17/20 at 11:51 pm to
What in the actual frick.

I don’t know if that was the best or the worst sex scene I’ve ever scene in a tv series but it’s definitely one or both of them.

This bitch Stormfront.

I think I know how we’ll get to our big Holy shite moment from the comics.
Posted by swamie
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Posted on 9/17/20 at 11:54 pm to
In the after show, A Train said he pushed the actress to make it really direct and pretty obvious to get a good reaction out of him. To make him really feel it.

I thought she did a good job on her end. I guess A Train and I have different reactions to feeling racism because I would have reacted a little louder. Given her that...ahhh ok then bitch. I see you.
This post was edited on 9/17/20 at 11:55 pm
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 9/18/20 at 9:28 am to
Man, I thought that dog was a goner. Deep relief.

This post was edited on 9/18/20 at 9:34 am
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 9/18/20 at 10:49 am to
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I guess A Train and I have different reactions to feeling racism because I would have reacted a little louder. Given her that...ahhh ok then bitch. I see you.



How often are you encountering racism from a person who can melt you with plasma energy?

Stormfront in the comics was just below Homelander, Black Noir and Meave in power. The only reason he never made it onto the Seven was because of the racism and Nazi-ism that would have been harder to hide with the Seven's profile.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 9/18/20 at 10:51 am to
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Some ghetto folks get killed in what easily could be a superhero rage


I don't follow.

Are you saying if a cop is chasing a terrorist and randomly shoots civilians in the process, and they're all black, he's just engaged in a "cop rage" and not racist? Ones that are not even in his way?
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 9/18/20 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

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Some ghetto folks get killed in what easily could be a superhero rage



I don't follow.

Are you saying if a cop is chasing a terrorist and randomly shoots civilians in the process, and they're all black, he's just engaged in a "cop rage" and not racist? Ones that are not even in his way?

because the Supers are not cops. They're powered-up celebrities.

Go back to the X-Men movies, Magneto has that exact mentality. He is blatantly "pro-Mutant", and doesn't give one frick about regular people. You could take Stormfront and put her in that vein, and just amp it up a few more notches, because her lightning power is more destructive than his magnetism.

I mean, there are 9 billion normal folks, and what, less than 100 Supers in total, right? So, frick it, what's a few extra dead ants, in her mind?

Homelander has that mentality- he's trying to groom his kid, and he takes the time to lecture Starlight and Maeve on what "they SHOULD do", where he'd just as soon step on regular people.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 9/18/20 at 12:15 pm to
On another, perhaps more relevant note:

anyone catch that Black Noir is operating at a different level than the rest of the Seven?

They're being "handled" by Ashley. BN, on the other hand, is being directly monitored by Edgar, and is in direct communication with him IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS FIGHT. This is clearly outside of Homelander's knowledge.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 9/18/20 at 12:39 pm to
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They're being "handled" by Ashley. BN, on the other hand, is being directly monitored by Edgar

Not just monitored. After Edgar was done speaking, Butcher had to get BN attention to put Edgar back on. It was like he tuned out. He seems almost robotic at times. Not say he is a cyborg but that he’ll do whatever Edgar will tell him to. Kind of like a person that is programed.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 9/18/20 at 12:51 pm to
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Not just monitored. After Edgar was done speaking, Butcher had to get BN attention to put Edgar back on. It was like he tuned out. He seems almost robotic at times. Not say he is a cyborg but that he’ll do whatever Edgar will tell him to. Kind of like a person that is programed.

Yeah, Black Noir appears to be working in a completely different manner than the rest.

He follows orders 100%, and yet, he does need the actual order from Edgar, so it's not pre-programmed.

The rest all have their own agendas; Homelander wants to take over for himself. Stormfront wants to stir shite up. Starlight wants to take down the lies.
Those 3 are actually all sorta working in the same anti-Vought direction, with different motivations.

Maeve wants to take Homelander down to protect Elena, and is enlisting The Deep to help. This, again, works in line with Starlight's goal, for different (although more similar) reasons.

A-Train is feeling the rejection of being kicked out, and thus kinda falls in line with The Deep's goals. He might be a candidate for the crazy cult, too. Stormfront mentions she was in that cult once. Makes you wonder what the connection is between that church and Vought. Did it also "reconcile" her, to get her back into the game?

Of all the various schemes, Black Noir alone seems focused on the singular mission at hand, and follows orders. For now, at least.
Posted by stateofplay
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Posted on 9/18/20 at 1:58 pm to
This Stormfront bitch is annoying as hell.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 9/18/20 at 3:14 pm to
Just finished episode 5:

- Homelander killing that supe-terrorist in like 2 seconds was so damn funny to me. He spent more time mocking him than he did in the actual "fight"

- "They're all starving but it doesn't stop them from having a fricking cell phone!"

- The Deep: "Wait you think I'm a piece of shite?"
Maeve: "Oh frick yeah." Maybe we'll finally get some crossover of that storyline so we can get some kind of payoff with this kind of lame church side plot.

- That sex scene was as hysterical as it was twisted.

- Black Noir peeking over that roof was great. He seems to be a methodical killer that reports directly to the top. I was sweating bullets worrying about the dog.

- I don't think Elena is long for this world.

- Kimiko ripping that dude's face off was one of the most violent things I've ever seen on TV

- Was anybody else wise to the Homelander "day dream" of murdering like 1,000 people at once? I knew there was no turning back on the plot if that was real.

Def my favorite episode of the season.
Posted by Bunta
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Posted on 9/18/20 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 9/18/20 at 3:45 pm to
At first I thought Homelander's destroying of the crowd was a dream but then it kept going. Right as I was at the "holy frick, that wasn't a daydream" moment, they popped back to reality and it was just a daydream.

Stormfront makes a fan-damned-tastic smarmy bitch. Her conversation with A-Train was every bit as golden as her snark toward Starlight in the trailer.

Butcher's use of the word "count" makes me laugh every time. I enjoy it almost as much as Brendan Fraser's "what the frick!" in Doom Patrol.

Starr's portrayal of Homelander never disappoints. Watching him trying to keep it together and then that insane sex scene with Stormfront... damn.
This post was edited on 9/18/20 at 3:47 pm
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