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re: 'The Acolyte' Megathread: The Grand Finale is now streaming
Posted on 6/19/24 at 7:45 pm to gaom23
Posted on 6/19/24 at 7:45 pm to gaom23
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I skipped from page 61 to here so maybe it was already brought up. I wanted to point out that there WAS foreshadowing of Leia being the sister in ESB, before ROJ. When Luke decides to go save his friends against the advice of Yoda and Obi-wan, Obi-Wan says he's our only hope. Yoda responds "No.... there is another".
That is true they foreshadow a sister. From what I understand, it was not decided Leia would be that sister until later. Which is why they still had that kissing scene between her and Luke.
She became his sister when they were making ROTJ.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:18 pm to hth52
The decision to make them siblings happened during the shooting of Empire Strikes Back. This is well documented. She senses him when he’s in trouble after the battle with Vader so this idea that it didn’t happen until Return is false.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:19 pm to SammyTiger
Yea when she senses her brother in trouble at the end of Empire Strikes Back. You’d know that if you were a Star Wars fan, it’s pretty central to the ending of the movie.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:35 pm to SammyTiger
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also while your here, weigh in. Did Luke have the hits for leia.
I think he did have a crush on her before finding out but don't see how it undermindes the argument you guys are having.
It ties into a bit of what you were saying about letting him keep the Skywalker name.
Personally I never found it strange but maybe it's my background. I have a pretty common Japanese last name. It's a family name / clan that did well surviving all the turmoil so it's wide spread.
I run into other people with the same last name pretty often in the work place, there are some celebrities with the same last name, but none of them are even remotely actually related to me.
I figure in the whole wide galaxy there's probably a thousand, if not more, Skywalkers. since everyone thought Padme died without giving birth no one ever bothered to try to follow up on every Skywalker out there.
I think from what we've seen so far, even with all their advance tech they don't really seem to have a super robust centralized database. It's pretty compartmentalized which could explain why they didn't just issue an order to check up on everyone with the last name.
Anyway I don't really want to go down this rabbit hole too much but really it comes down to the OT and PT for the most part being within bounds that is easy to suspend belief and forgive small inconsistencies or problems to enjoy the overall story.
But when it comes to this show, the bad writing makes it very hard to suspend belief....and once that happens you can't help but start to nitpick everything that annoys you.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:37 pm to SammyTiger
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his is an extremely common narrative. you’re a moron.
Before this thread ive never encountered someone that would argue the kiss between Luke and Leia wasn’t at least a little inconvenient to the reveal in Jedi she is his sister. It’s been a pretty widely discussed point for years. To claim someone is “lying” and twisting it to suit a “narrative” is frankly bizarre
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:43 pm to H-Town Tiger
What a shock, a scumbag spinning for another scumbag.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 9:31 pm to Madking
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What a shock, a scumbag spinning for another scumbag.
not shocking, you continue to be a dipshit
Posted on 6/19/24 at 9:35 pm to Madking
It never fails
SW fan: I don't like the new thing
Disney fans: Well here is an odd thing from the OT. . .that makes as bad or worse. . .so now you have to like the new thing
Disney stans are predictable.
SW fan: I don't like the new thing
Disney fans: Well here is an odd thing from the OT. . .that makes as bad or worse. . .so now you have to like the new thing
Disney stans are predictable.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 9:37 pm to Madking
Here’s a clip from the John Campea show talking about how bad it is. I don’t even like Campea because he rarely dumps on anything. And you know he’s left leaning if you’ve listened to him before.
And for those wondering, he doesn’t mention the political agenda bullshite at all. He rips into this shitty series just on a technical level with the show’s logic and writing, which just proves you can bash this show for hours without ever mentioning the political shite
LINK
And for those wondering, he doesn’t mention the political agenda bullshite at all. He rips into this shitty series just on a technical level with the show’s logic and writing, which just proves you can bash this show for hours without ever mentioning the political shite
LINK
Posted on 6/19/24 at 9:39 pm to SammyTiger
Yea it’s me, you’re the one who was completely wrong, you lied about me, you dragged the discussion into the mud like you always do and that’s my fault? I gave you every chance to realize on your own that you were racing towards a red light but you’re just an idiot ideologue and can’t discuss things honestly or on their merits. frick you Sammy, you’re a POS
Posted on 6/19/24 at 9:43 pm to Roaad
Dude this guy is unbelievable the way he behaves. He’s sitting there getting personal and ugly with me because I won’t buy into his alternate reality. This dude is a loon and a psycho.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 9:52 pm to Madking
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Yea it’s me, you’re the one who was completely wrong
has anyone agreed with you on this yet?
quote:
you lied about me
no you really are a moron. that’s true.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 9:54 pm to WicKed WayZ
I watched that earlier and I was thinking to myself if campea hates this show it has to be really bad. The dude actually liked The Last Jedi
Posted on 6/19/24 at 9:57 pm to Roaad
no this is how it goes
Shitheads: Disney is ruining star wars, they didn’t even read the Ultimate Fans Third Edition Exivlopedoa Delux edition to check the canon. Sell it back to George Lucas who is amazing.
Star Wars Fans: If all you care about is inconsistencies how did you ever enjoy star wars?
half of yall don’t watch the show so they latch onto a tweet and it’s always something petty.
I remember in the Obi-wan threads people mocking the actress who played young Leia for being too small to be a believable 10 year old girl. and she was an actual 10 year old girl.
Shitheads: Disney is ruining star wars, they didn’t even read the Ultimate Fans Third Edition Exivlopedoa Delux edition to check the canon. Sell it back to George Lucas who is amazing.
Star Wars Fans: If all you care about is inconsistencies how did you ever enjoy star wars?
half of yall don’t watch the show so they latch onto a tweet and it’s always something petty.
I remember in the Obi-wan threads people mocking the actress who played young Leia for being too small to be a believable 10 year old girl. and she was an actual 10 year old girl.
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:02 pm to Madking
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The decision to make them siblings happened during the shooting of Empire Strikes Back. This is well documented. She senses him when he’s in trouble after the battle with Vader so this idea that it didn’t happen until Return is false.
This aspect of the story changing really is not well documented at all. It is widely believed he changed this after Empire.
I know that I have read early versions of Empire named his sister Nellith and Vader wasn’t originally his father. These things were altered, of course. But Luke/Leia and love triangle stuff remained late in the movie process, with the first Hoth kiss staying in the final film. The alternate scene of that is not any better.
Luke mentally calls out to Leia at the end of ESB. She isn’t just sensing him out of the blue. It is not an indication of them being made siblings during Empire.
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:03 pm to SammyTiger
quote:and here we agree
Star Wars Fans: Disney is ruining star wars
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:13 pm to hth52
No, she senses him because she’s able to. He couldn’t call out to Han and Han hear him. The beats go hand in hand. When the hint of Vader being Luke’s dad with Luke’s face in the helmet is shown it’s immediately followed by Yoda saying “there is another Skywalker”. The reveal of Vader being Luke’s father is directly followed by the reveal that Leia can feel Luke in danger. This is on purpose, the family beats are 1 for 1.
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:14 pm to SammyTiger
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I remember in the Obi-wan threads people mocking the actress who played young Leia for being too small to be a believable 10 year old girl. and she was an actual 10 year old girl
Maybe if you paid attention and responded to actual criticisms of the garbage product being put on screen rather than focusing on nonsensical things like this and the multi page “discussion” about how much Luke wanted to get with Leia, your point wouldn’t seem quite so shallow.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:15 pm to Crimson K
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:18 pm to Crimson K
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Maybe if you paid attention and responded to actual criticisms of the garbage product being put on screen rather than focusing on nonsensical things like this and the multi page “discussion” about how much Luke wanted to get with Leia, your point wouldn’t seem quite so shallow.
I dont think any shows are perfect but barely anyone talks about anything actually going on in the show.
its always broad platitudes
“bad acting and terrible CW production” “this is woke bullshite” “they ruined the force”
but never anything specific.
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