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re: 'The Acolyte' Megathread: The Grand Finale is now streaming

Posted on 7/14/24 at 12:39 pm to
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 7/14/24 at 12:39 pm to
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Power decreases the farther down the line it travels, so you would not see greater impact (explosive release) than what you see at the source of the issue (light sparking).



this thing exploded so clearly it was full of some type of explosive material.



sorta like how TNT works with the old school dynamite plungers.

sending the electric current made the dynamite explode



Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/14/24 at 12:54 pm to
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sorta like how TNT works with the old school dynamite plungers.

sending the electric current made the dynamite explode
So then why wasn't it always exploding if it . ..




You know what, it can't fall on me to educate you. Rationalize however you need to to keep defending your infallible Disney gods, man

I said I was done educating you out of your ignorance labyrinth, so now I will be done

Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:02 pm to
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I said I was done educating you out of your ignorance labyrinth, so now I will be done

says the guy that can't comprehend what the director/CGI creator was trying to portray in a disney show meant for a casual audience.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/14/24 at 2:16 pm to
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Attachment to him, or firm belief that he was the prophesied chosen one? There’s a difference.


Obi-wan is clearly attached.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/15/24 at 12:33 pm to
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Obi-wan is clearly attached.



Sure, after they went through some training and he was honoring Qui-Gon's wishes.

Qui-Gon was not attached to Anakin like what Sol just did. Sol is acting like a woman who wants a baby.
Qui-Gon's attachment wasn't to Anakin, it was to the prophecy. He doesn't have this weird want to have another apprentice, like what Sol is wanting.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/15/24 at 12:41 pm to
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Qui-gon and Obi-wan ignore everyone’s better judgement because of their attachments to Anakin.



You continuously display a complete lack of understanding of the content you wish to discuss.

Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41083 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 12:42 pm to
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Obi-wan is clearly attached.


He clearly wasn't. He wanted to side with the council.

He only took Anakin on as a padawan because he made a promise to a dying Qui Gon.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/15/24 at 12:48 pm to
hey man I think you missed 2 movies.

In the next 2 movies Obi-wan gets very attached to a full on psychopath.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/15/24 at 12:56 pm to
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In the next 2 movies Obi-wan gets very attached to a full on psychopath.




What does that have to do with comparing to what Sol just did?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/15/24 at 1:59 pm to
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hey man I think you missed 2 movies.


Rich coming from you.

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In the next 2 movies Obi-wan gets very attached to a full on psychopath.


What does that have to do with your original comment? When Qui Gon and Obi Wan "ignored everybody's best judgement", how do the next two movies have any bearing on that?

At the time they "ignored everybody's best judgement", Qui Gon was committed to the prophecy and Obi Wan was committed to honoring Qui Gon's dying wish. It had nothing to do with an attachment to Anakin.

Now, if you want to discuss how close him and Anakin became as Padawan and Master, we can absolutely have that discussion and explore the hypocrisy of the Jedi's position regarding attachments. However, Anakin and Obi Wan basically becoming brothers through shared hardships and experiences, is nowhere close to the same thing that happed with Sol.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79431 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 2:05 pm to
my original point was: Every main character jedi we’ve had has had issues because they’re all human (besides yoda) and not robots.

I dont think Qui-gon only took care of Anakin because of the prophecy. there was clearly a connection there.

and then Obi-wan continued to ignore Anakin’s red flags as he trained him.

And I would argue that Obi-wan and Qui-gon are supposed to represent better jedi’s than sol. They’re supposed to be less flawed.

my point is the whole issue with attachments in the first place is counter to human nature.
This post was edited on 7/15/24 at 2:06 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30348 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 2:18 pm to
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I dont think Qui-gon only took care of Anakin because of the prophecy. there was clearly a connection there.



Give me an example of this human attachment he had then.
Wanting to train him even though the council said no is not a good example, imo, b/c as we've said it was simply b/c he felt strongly that Anakin was the chosen one, which is completely different than feelign strongly about just Anakin the person.


Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13205 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 3:10 pm to
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Yeah I mean every jedi we’ve focused on has had issues


I mean every Jedi here acts with too much emotion. Their choices are based on emotion with no logic.

Yes, I remember the other Jedi being confronted and conflicted, but they were able to reason and find a decision without emotion. Obi was in love at one point, but it did not cloud his judgement in the end. Anakin definitely used emotion to make decisions and hence why Yoda along with the council did not want him to train. They even stated that.

The Jedi were arrogant and why they were blinded by the presence of the Sith. Anakin though saw this as a weakness to the Order. The Jedi also feared emotion because they knew it would tempt them and possibly lead them to the path of the dark side.

In this show these Jedi show no concern for emotion or conflict. It is part of everything they do. They seem to embrace it but yet this is supposed to take place at the height of the Order.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79431 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 3:15 pm to
I think that’s true of Torbin and Sol, but Indarra wasn’t overly emotional. Neither was Jecki and Yord was intentionally over the top trying to be detached.

Vernestrah even warns Sol about having his judgement clouded.

Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13205 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 3:36 pm to
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Indarra


Was cocky in the 1st episode and her arrogance(emotion) is what got her killed.

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Jecki


Truly acted her age. Did not show wisdom and was concerned about making friends.

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Vernestrah even warns Sol about having his judgement clouded


Yes but also concerned regarding the image of the Order. Instead of focusing on what needed to be done to protect those in need was more concerned about what those on the outside thought of the Order. Her decisions were based on impatience and deceit as she hid them from the council.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Member since Nov 2008
60094 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 3:50 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79431 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 4:23 pm to
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Was cocky in the 1st episode and her arrogance(emotion) is what got her killed.


Nope. that’s not what happened.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13205 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 4:52 pm to
She told Mae she could not win the fight once her light saber was pulled out in the opening scene. She overestimated her ability and underestimated what Mae could or would do. She assumed she was in control of the situation and died because of it to someone in training not yet a Sith.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70714 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 6:07 pm to
How did Sol and Indarra know what caused the fire? Here’s a hint, they read the script. This show is trash
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79431 posts
Posted on 7/15/24 at 7:08 pm to
Yeah she died because she stopped the knife from
killing the bartender and was distracted

not because she was arrogant.
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