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re: "Tenet" absolutely sucks
Posted on 9/10/20 at 12:58 pm to Carson123987
Posted on 9/10/20 at 12:58 pm to Carson123987
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Nolan has 0 interest in exploring concepts. they're all just vehicles for him to center his action setpieces around. that's why all his exposition is so jarringly fast and handwavey, he doesn't want you to get hung up on the concepts/rules and start asking questions. "we'll just whisk them away to the next setpiece"
That explains some of the shittiness of the Dark Knight. Loved it when it came out, but the more i watch it, the more i come to the conclusion that it's a pretty bad movie.
Maggie Gylennhal is a terrible actress.
Many of the scenes were rushed.
No one bought that she was the love interest of anyone on screen.
No one knew who the Joker was referring to when he said, "hello beautiful"
Batmans "1 rule" was completely illogical.
The people of Gotham turning on Batman was completely illogical.
Two face's sudden "all-in" on being evil was completely illogical.
Nothing in the movie was setup properly for you to care about any of the characters except for Joker. Joker was the only redeeming quality of the whole film.
And then the dark knight rises had the exact same issues.
The righteous indignation of Robin, learning that Gordon kept the secret about Dent, was illogical.
Catwoman was a poor character in this movie.
The timeline in the entire movie makes no sense.
Batman's miraculous recovery in the prison, and going from being nearly killed by Bane to all of a sudden kicking bane's arse, no problem, did not make sense.
Those 2 movies would have been better served with more back story and exposition, to get you to actually care about the characters.
This post was edited on 9/10/20 at 1:02 pm
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Posted on 9/10/20 at 4:59 pm to Adam Banks
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If you think inception was a mess then your opinion is invalid and we can’t be friends.
Aww, I didn’t mean to offend. But I do think that movie was pretty average. Maybe not as much of a mess as the others.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 5:04 pm to Carson123987
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alex garland is the exact opposite. all he cares about are the concepts and ideas, and he's not scared to slow things down to let you absorb them
May be true, but let’s let Garland get to 6 or 7 films before we can accurately compare instead of just 2. Nolan’s 2 best, imo, came early in his career as well (Memento and the Prestige) And let’s not act like plenty of people didn’t ask “wtf did I just watch” after Annihilation
Posted on 9/10/20 at 5:23 pm to jg8623
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let’s let Garland get to 6 or 7 films before we can accurately compare instead of just 2
2 and an excellent series
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Nolan’s 2 best, imo, came early in his career as well (Memento and the Prestige)
no question his best. and i even think Memento is a cut above Prestige. Memento is an amazing movie
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And let’s not act like plenty of people didn’t ask “wtf did I just watch” after Annihilation
they were saying wtf for different reasons
This post was edited on 9/10/20 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 9/10/20 at 5:58 pm to Carson123987
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2 and an excellent series
Haven’t seen Devs yet. It’s on my list
Posted on 9/11/20 at 3:38 am to SLafourche07
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I still haven’t seen Annihilation because I had heard bad things when it came out. Is it worth watching?
Fantastic movie. I was skeptical too because of how many shitty forced all female cast movies have been released over the years, but I would highly recommend it.
Whole movie is a trip and I still really don’t know wtf happened at the end.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 4:49 am to Jackie Daytona
Jackie I have not seen Tenet yet, but Inception, Interstellar, and The Dark Knight Rises are like you said a total mess, Dunkirk at best is just below average.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:10 am to bleedsgarnet
Felt like Nolan had the idea for the airport fight scene and worked a movie around it.
Establishing the hero as the hero was really lazy. Hey, let's grab this random CIA guy and explain our secret operation and put him in charge! And if he was the leader all along, why even bother with the cyanide/torture bit?
The Indian chick is also a member of Tent but they have to scale a building to see her?
Kat stays with this guy because she accidentally sold him a fake painting? What?
Why would future humans want to destroy the World... and isn't their an easier way to do it in ... the future?
Why is the Indian chick trying to kill Kat at the end?
Establishing the hero as the hero was really lazy. Hey, let's grab this random CIA guy and explain our secret operation and put him in charge! And if he was the leader all along, why even bother with the cyanide/torture bit?
The Indian chick is also a member of Tent but they have to scale a building to see her?
Kat stays with this guy because she accidentally sold him a fake painting? What?
Why would future humans want to destroy the World... and isn't their an easier way to do it in ... the future?
Why is the Indian chick trying to kill Kat at the end?
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:23 am to RougeDawg
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Establishing the hero as the hero was really lazy. Hey, let's grab this random CIA guy and explain our secret operation and put him in charge! And if he was the leader all along, why even bother with the cyanide/torture bit?
His future self was the founder all long, not his past self. And if you're going to embark upon a highly dangerous, top secret op with the future of the world at stake, it would probably be best for your own protection if people who knew you already thought you were dead.
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The Indian chick is also a member of Tent but they have to scale a building to see her?
She's married to the top weapons manufacturer in India. We would expect them to live in a lavish tower with a significant security presence.
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Kat stays with this guy because she accidentally sold him a fake painting? What?
The fake Goya painting is how Sator controls and imprisons his wife. She unknowingly sold him a fake painting worth about $9 million. Sator knew, she didn't. If he turned her in, she would be prosecuted, wind up in jail, lose her son, job, etc. Instead, he holds it over her and controls her life.
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Why would future humans want to destroy the World... and isn't their an easier way to do it in ... the future?
There are extremist organizations all over the world right now that would love nothing more than nuclear war. There will always be groups of people that exist that just want destroy all aspects of society.
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Why is the Indian chick trying to kill Kat at the end?
She was trying to tie up "loose ends", meaning it was imperative for her to limit the amount of people that knew about Tenet and inversion in general. JDW expressed concern about this earlier in the film, asking her not to target Kat.
This post was edited on 9/11/20 at 8:26 am
Posted on 2/7/21 at 10:40 am to bleedsgarnet
Finally saw it yesterday. I wouldn't say it sucks but it wasn't anything that was going to save movie theaters the way it was hyped to be. Even if COVID had never happened it was not going to be a billion dollar movie that WB or Nolan wanted. It was too jumbled and too impressed with the time inversion gimmick for it's own good.
I appreciate that Nolan did so many things with practical effects, it was well acted, and it looked nice. However the overall story was a little too self important and felt like more of an excuse to to jump from set piece to set piece more than anything else which surprising considering it was a script Nolan had been working on for many years.
I dunno, it just seemed like he was sniffing his own farts a bit. The sound mixing was awful and I had to turn on the subtitles to understand most of the characters. That aspect of his movies is becoming a bad joke at this point and needs to stop.
I appreciate that Nolan did so many things with practical effects, it was well acted, and it looked nice. However the overall story was a little too self important and felt like more of an excuse to to jump from set piece to set piece more than anything else which surprising considering it was a script Nolan had been working on for many years.
I dunno, it just seemed like he was sniffing his own farts a bit. The sound mixing was awful and I had to turn on the subtitles to understand most of the characters. That aspect of his movies is becoming a bad joke at this point and needs to stop.
This post was edited on 2/7/21 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 2/7/21 at 11:06 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Dunkirk was awful
It wasn't awful...but I'm not a big fan of "a day in the life" movies with no plot and outcomes we already know.
It could've been on the level in that same vein as Apocalypto but he's not the director Gibson is.
Also it's funny that Dunkirk was loud as shite, almost unbearable to watch in the theater but Tenet is soft as shite.
Dude has some hipster fascination with not giving viewers a consistent and normal audible experience.
Posted on 2/7/21 at 7:13 pm to bleedsgarnet
It was a top three Nolan movie for me. It was incredibly difficult and he almost pulled it off. It was still great.
Dunkirk was also fantastic.
But I believe you have to see a Nolan movie in the theater once to appreciate the spectacle. And another time at home to appreciate the story.
Dunkirk was also fantastic.
But I believe you have to see a Nolan movie in the theater once to appreciate the spectacle. And another time at home to appreciate the story.
Posted on 2/7/21 at 7:34 pm to bleedsgarnet
We need more remakes and comic book movies in Hollywood, right??
Posted on 2/7/21 at 9:39 pm to Cs
Why don't the people traveling reverse in time appear to be walking backwards to the people they pass, and vice versa.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 2:22 pm to Displaced
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Why don't the people traveling reverse in time appear to be walking backwards to the people they pass, and vice versa.
I could be wrong but I thought they were running backwards with the gurney
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