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re: Study: Young people want more "vulnerable men" in movies/TV, less "masculine stereotypes"

Posted on 2/27/26 at 12:46 am to
Posted by Neutral Underground
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Posted on 2/27/26 at 12:46 am to
This is a bunch of BS. Look at StarTrek Academy. They have everything that is supposedly wanted and No One is watching it.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:36 am to
This is what they talked about with guys like Marlon Brando and James Dean, at the time. They’ve already been pushing this forever
Posted by Hayekian serf
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Posted on 2/27/26 at 4:58 am to
If that were true- a lot of movies that lost hundreds of millions would have made hundreds of millions
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 2/27/26 at 8:19 am to
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Whether it is a father, mentor, coach, or teacher,


This is direct contrast to this...

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Sorry Jason Statham, but Gen Alpha (born 2010-2024/25) and Gen Z (born 1997-2012) are not looking for a Transporter.


If you asked a question like, "Do you prefer to see father figures more or less vulnerable compared to X?" then how would that even relate to action movies?

Also, comparing them to characters in the Fast and the Furious? Seriously?

I would have so many questions about how the question was asked, if examples were given, etc.

I would also argue that "vulnerable" means different things to different people.

Would you consider K in MIB pulling up a video of the woman he loved but had to give up to help protect the world a moment of vulnerability? Do people prefer things like that, or by "vulnerable" do they mean constantly being vulnerable?

So many variables I would want to know:
1. Did they include a genre of movie in the question?
2. Did they give examples that might influence the answer?
3. How was the question worded?
4. What were the demographics of who answered?
5. Did the delivery method of the survey impact who would answer? (For example - if they blind called people, who is more likely to answer an unknown number)?
6. What does "being vulnerable" mean to a 10 year old? Did you ask a 10 year old girl, "Would you rather have a dad that plays with you or one that ignores you?"


Also, can I just say that Statham gets a bad rap? Yeah, some of his roles are a "type", but the first movie I saw him in was Snatch. He's got good comedic timing, and has absolutely no action scenes of his own in the movie. I think there's a universe out there where Statham went on to do comedies and was plenty successful in them.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 2/27/26 at 8:29 am to
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I generally feel the same as your then 4 year old nephew. Not a fan of horror and agony. Never have been. I get enough of that from the world.

But I still like Rambo and Terminator and James Bond. I wouldn’t use horror as a barometer.


Bolded for emphasis.

I think one has to be careful with those kinds of things. A child can be perfectly fine going deer hunting with their dad but still not want to see Bambi's mom die.

Horror movies are especially the kind of movie where you can hate them and it have nothing to do with being "vulnerable." Some people just have no desire to watch movies like that.
Posted by LSUDonMCO
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Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:08 pm to
I find this hard to believe that a true cross section of American viewers, not people sitting outside the political science building at UC Berkley would prefer pathetic little girly men over a real man,
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:27 pm to
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So they only asked the gheys?


They call themselves "theater majors", but... yes.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:50 pm to
No they don’t and there is no study that found they did.
This post was edited on 2/27/26 at 1:50 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:02 pm to
It’s always worth asking who was surveyed, what questions were asked, and looking for potential issues with validity and reliability in a study. That’s fair to ask here.

That said, Keanu Reeves as John Wick is a perfect example of a male character that can be vulnerable AND masculine without being incredibly toxic. Daniel Craig as Bond is another IMO. While also being wildly successful from a ratings/box office standpoint.
This post was edited on 2/27/26 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:45 pm to
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I asked my nephew, 4 at the time, jokingly if he wanted to watch horror movies with me when he got older. His look of disapproval was shocking and he said “I want to watch happy movies about happy people.”

What about shiny people? Did you go Denis Leary on him?
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Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey! Pull that bus over to the side of the pretentiousness turnpike, all right? I want everybody off the bus. I want the shiny people over here, and the happy people over here, okay? I represent angry gun-toting meat-eating fricking people, all right? Sit down and shut the frick up, Michael!
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